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ferndaleflyer

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Posted: 09/04/19 11:13am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sorry Bruce Brown if I have misunderstood Ford and my transmission rebuilder about these transmissions in all these Fords I have owned over the past 40 years or so. Maybe I am just old and my memory is fading, but it worked like that this morning.

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ferndaleflyer wrote:

Sorry Bruce Brown if I have misunderstood Ford and my transmission rebuilder about these transmissions in all these Fords I have owned over the past 40 years or so. Maybe I am just old and my memory is fading, but it worked like that this morning.


Technology changes quick, it can be hard to keep up.


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IMO-yours may vary. My older Fords with 4 speed transmissions were labeled OD Lockout and that's all they did. Banks actually makes a device that will change the shift points of the Ford 4 speeds. I believe when the shifter button began to be labeled Tow Haul, that's when the shift points began to be modified, both in an up and down direction. My TorqueShift 6 speed definately works that way using both OD gears 5th & 6th. I do not know how the 5 speed TorqueShift works, and in 2014 I don't know whether the 5 or 6 speed was used. In later pickup trucks the engine braking down shifting function was separated from the tow haul button with its own button. All the more need for the OP to download a manual.

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I know the guys who designed that tranny/engine combination. First of all, Tow/Hawl mode changes shift points, releiving stress on the transmission. This might seem like it will consume more fuel, although they insist that it should save fuel. Their explanation: The RV is heavy enough to be considered as a vehicle towing. I tested in several different units, and the difference is minimal, and in the lower side.
Second, the transmission will allow you to use the engine to slow down, which is in my mind the best advantage of this transmission.
All that said, It has been proven that using the tow/hawl mode will prolong the life of your transmission. I have seens trannys last over 300K, as rentlas, as long as the default is Tow/Hawl mode is ON.


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ferndaleflyer wrote:

Sorry Bruce Brown if I have misunderstood Ford and my transmission rebuilder about these transmissions in all these Fords I have owned over the past 40 years or so. Maybe I am just old and my memory is fading, but it worked like that this morning.


The 6.2 / Torqshift 6spd auto in my F350 does not “lock out” any gear in tow haul mode - it will use all gears up to 6 - unless you select manual mode or select the top gear available manually with the shift up/down button. It will not upshift above the gear you have selected until you select up the range. Tow Haul mode makes down grade downshifting more aggressive for engine braking also downshifts as you slow to a stop or make a sharp turn etc.

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ferndaleflyer wrote:

Don't know about hub caps but tow mode just keeps it out of overdrive and decreases fuel mileage.

It depends on the exact model of transmission. Older (4 speed) transmission did exactly as described. Newer (5 and 6 speed) change when shifting occurs (typically earlier) and may inhibit OD in some cases.

The decrease in fuel economy is because you have more power at the rear wheels.

With my old E150, I left it in OD, but turned that off when approaching hills.

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Carvin Marvin wrote:

Just acquired a 2014 31' Newmar. How do I remove the hub caps on 19.5 tires? Thanks in advance for assistance.


What ever you do, DO NOT pry on the stainless steel wheel covers. When you have loosened all the CORRECT hold down lugs, usually two, 180 degrees apart, the OEM factory wheel covers (usually made by Dicor) will come off without tools. The stainless steel lugs you see DO NOT HOLD THE WHEEL ON, only the wheel cover. They are just false decor. The real lug nuts (on a Ford, usually 8) that hold the wheel on are underneath the stainless steel caps. The wheel cover hold down nuts only need be snugged up when reinstalled. THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE TORQUED TO 150 FT-LBS. Make sure you index the wheel covers properly to the valve stem (see notched cutout on wheel cover) when reinstalling them or you won't be able to check/adjust tire air pressures on the road.

(I wish I knew the above the first time)

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Usually the two or three Retainers are just push on pull off lug nut caps. I’ve never seen any that required a wrench.
Your 19.5 Wheels simulators are actually held to the steel rim by the exposed lug nuts. Mine had 10 Lug wheels!
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I don't know if you've been to Valdez AK but theres one big long hill to get down to the town. I put the Ford in Tow Haul at the top and never touched the brakes all the way down. T/H is amazing technology (to me) and I use it all the time (even in the east coast flatlands)


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Bruce Brown wrote:

ferndaleflyer wrote:

Don't know about hub caps but tow mode just keeps it out of over drive and decreases fuel mileage.


False

My 2008 will not go into overdrive while in tow mode and my Ford books states this also. Just maybe newer one do but my 08 will not ....


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