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time2roll

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Posted: 09/06/19 11:26pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would drive 8 miles off the highway for a basic enroute place to get some sleep. Although 7 miles of slow gravel road would be disappointing.


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For overnighters I would go with 30 amp electric only and a central hose bib. No shower house, no club house, no dump, no swimming pool. Just a place to get a quiet night of rest. Probably cut your price a bit and see where it goes. You can always add more amenities but once that money is spent and this thing never takes off it could just be a sink hole. If it does take off you can keep your overnight section and start building a full service section.

Well, I don't mind the 8 miles in the least, but this would keep me away.


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If you use the assumption that you are not going to get any overnighter just looking for a quick stop then 30 amp service would be fine as you will be a destination campground instead. For overnight, I am going to find a campground close to the Interstate AND with 50 amp service.
Keep in mind that a 30 amp coach can make full use of a 50 amp plug but a 50 amp coach might be crippled by a 30 amp plug depending upon the weather. I suspect the cost difference of a new installation would be minimal and only installing 30 amp would be a mistake.


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ford truck guy wrote:

When traveling and looking for an " over nighter" the FIRST thing I look for is distance from the highway.... We are NOT retired and are traveling to get to our destination for vacation... IF I were a full timer, that would give me a different outlook on that..

As far as tax's and regulations, I agree that as soon as that is no longer a WORKING FARM, you will lose that benefit, whatever it may be..

What it's called is farm deferral of taxes. Farmers get a big reduction of property taxes as long as they farm it. A problem arises when someone new buys the property, and decides not to farm it. When this happens, they have to pay all the back taxes to the beginning of farm deferral, no matter how far back it is. Nobody typically does this, but some buyers are unaware of the law when they buy, and the County hands them a really big bill. I'm in Oregon and we have that here.


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T18skyguy wrote:

ford truck guy wrote:

When traveling and looking for an " over nighter" the FIRST thing I look for is distance from the highway.... We are NOT retired and are traveling to get to our destination for vacation... IF I were a full timer, that would give me a different outlook on that..

As far as tax's and regulations, I agree that as soon as that is no longer a WORKING FARM, you will lose that benefit, whatever it may be..

What it's called is farm deferral of taxes. Farmers get a big reduction of property taxes as long as they farm it. A problem arises when someone new buys the property, and decides not to farm it. When this happens, they have to pay all the back taxes to the beginning of farm deferral, no matter how far back it is. Nobody typically does this, but some buyers are unaware of the law when they buy, and the County hands them a really big bill. I'm in Oregon and we have that here.


If it is were I’m thinking it is they are farming some grain and hops for beer.
I’m sure that would keep that going along with some rv pads


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2012Coleman wrote:

So to those who won't drive 8 miles to an out of the way CG after driving hundreds of miles that day, what's your next move - driving 25+ miles to the next Walmart?


The whole 8 miles thing:
- If it's a destination park, sure no big deal.
- If it's a quick overnight, yeah, it's costs me 16 miles round trip, so yeah, I might push on 25 miles to the next park that is near the highway. Worst case, it cuts 25 miles off the next day's travel.

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Offer free beer, then the distance becomes a non issue.


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mike brez wrote:

T18skyguy wrote:

ford truck guy wrote:

When traveling and looking for an " over nighter" the FIRST thing I look for is distance from the highway.... We are NOT retired and are traveling to get to our destination for vacation... IF I were a full timer, that would give me a different outlook on that..

As far as tax's and regulations, I agree that as soon as that is no longer a WORKING FARM, you will lose that benefit, whatever it may be..

What it's called is farm deferral of taxes. Farmers get a big reduction of property taxes as long as they farm it. A problem arises when someone new buys the property, and decides not to farm it. When this happens, they have to pay all the back taxes to the beginning of farm deferral, no matter how far back it is. Nobody typically does this, but some buyers are unaware of the law when they buy, and the County hands them a really big bill. I'm in Oregon and we have that here.


If it is were I’m thinking it is they are farming some grain and hops for beer.
I’m sure that would keep that going along with some rv pads
While the whole scenario is fuzzy, in the original post they said they were going to get out of Dairy farming and move into the RV Park business. Government loves it's taxes. Don't believe they would allow an Agricultural exemption to remain on the entire property if the dairy farm went away, was replaced by an RV Park and all that remained was a few acres of grain and hops for a brewery. Kind of like I can't just plant a rooftop garden on my 100 million dollar Manhattan Penthouse that overlooks Central Park and claim an Agricultural use tax exemption because it is being used for crop production.

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westernrvparkowner wrote:

While the whole scenario is fuzzy, in the original post they said they were going to get out of Dairy farming and move into the RV Park business. Government loves it's taxes. Don't believe they would allow an Agricultural exemption to remain on the entire property if the dairy farm went away, was replaced by an RV Park and all that remained was a few acres of grain and hops for a brewery. Kind of like I can't just plant a rooftop garden on my 100 million dollar Manhattan Penthouse that overlooks Central Park and claim an Agricultural use tax exemption because it is being used for crop production.



That might depend on your name and tax bracket.
One thing they do have in their favor is they are already used to 7 day a week job...

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You all can debate it until the cows come home. Its all academic. The OP needs to get an attorney well versed in real estate, preferably with an emphasis on commercial development, and from the local area. Until all the requirements are known from city,township,county,state,federal etc., and what has to be done is known to cross the T's and dot the I's locally, you may as well discuss ST tires or fridge leveling. It may be nothing more than the OP proceeding and keeping his mouth shut but I highly doubt that anywhere in NY. Then they'll have to appease the NIMBYs.

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