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IAMICHABOD

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Posted: 09/13/19 10:38am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

There is a switch located on the remote panel, and allows the user to bypass the computer circuit in the EMS in the event of computer failure, thus allowing source power into the RV. This does not disable the surge protection portion of the EMS.

It is field serviceable so if the computer goes down they will ship you one under their warranty.


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Ok thanks again. And just to clarify, the ones that plug into the pedestal are a one time failure! Meaning they have to be replaced when they do their job.


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Bumpyroad wrote:

I would get something with a bypass feature.
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My friends surge protector went on our trip this summer. We had to disconnect the wires coming in and going out, and used one of the connectors as a temporary link to get him going again until he could get a new one. He could have still used his generator, as the protector is installed before the transfer switch. You shouldn't need protection from your own generator. In the process of trying to fix his, we learned his model also came with a keyed bypass. Unfortunately, his wasn't one of those models. His was similar to this model.https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Surge-Guard-35530-Hardwire-Model-30-Amp/283602101316?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3Df61ff518f4cb473597a23723daaadd44%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D143211287998%26itm%3D283602101316%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

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Posted: 09/13/19 04:14pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The unit the OP is looking at does have a bypass feature but that doesnt do much good if you have to take it out for repair.
The bypass feature is to allow you to ignore the fault present and allow power through anyway.


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Posted: 09/13/19 04:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Four large wire nuts and the box is bypassed. Just leave some slack in the wire. But there are very few posts of random failures. Far more good reports of the protector saving the RV.


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time2roll wrote:

Four large wire nuts and the box is bypassed. Just leave some slack in the wire. But there are very few posts of random failures. Far more good reports of the protector saving the RV.


so you are recommending buying one without a built in, easy to operate,function, and plan on going out in the rain with 4 wire nuts, rather than flipping a switch?
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Posted: 09/14/19 05:00am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have the "hard wired " progressive , but went to Home Depot and bought 50 amp plug and receptacle and installed them so that it can be easily removed should it be needed. I did the same with my autoformer.


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Don't know what kind of failure Dodge Guy is speaking of, but my Progressive portable has refuse to pass power a number of times due to low voltage. Perhaps a lightning strike would require a rebuild at the factory but I have yet to have a failure that would need a rebuild.


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horsedoc,

They use mov technology. Over time there is cumulative damage. The mov's eventually fail and have to be replaced.


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Bumpyroad wrote:

time2roll wrote:

Four large wire nuts and the box is bypassed. Just leave some slack in the wire. But there are very few posts of random failures. Far more good reports of the protector saving the RV.


so you are recommending buying one without a built in, easy to operate,function, and plan on going out in the rain with 4 wire nuts, rather than flipping a switch?
bumpy
Not exactly. Get the bypass switch. On unit or remote is fine. I thought all PI-EMS hardwire units had the bypass.

Anyway if the fail is so catastrophic that the bypass does not work then you will have to go out in whatever the weather conditions and bypass using the wire nuts. That is if you absolutely need immediate power. House battery should hold you for a bit unless you need air conditioning. Or just roll out but you still need to unplug.

My EMS is installed behind the main electric panel and is accessed from within the RV by removing the panel. Yes I would still have to tredge through the four feet of snow while it rains to get a screw driver from an exterior compartment. [emoticon]

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