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camperdave

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Posted: 09/16/19 02:02pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

maybe they left the beads in the bag? [emoticon]

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Posted: 09/16/19 02:46pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It does sound like a worn u-joint(s) or a drive shaft center hanger bearing. Do you remember if it vibrated when you drove it to the dealer to get the tires installed?

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I drove a big Penske truck from St Louis to Naples a couple of years ago. It had 22.5 inch tires and must have had beads to balance the tires. Every time I came to a stop and started off again, the tires would be out of balance. I'd have to drive a couple of miles for them to smooth out again. I'm not a fan of putting a bunch of beads, powder or dust inside tires. I'll always go with a good wheel balance. I'd rather pay for balancing my tires than have them put crystals inside them for free.


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DFord wrote:

I drove a big Penske truck from St Louis to Naples a couple of years ago. It had 22.5 inch tires and must have had beads to balance the tires. Every time I came to a stop and started off again, the tires would be out of balance. I'd have to drive a couple of miles for them to smooth out again. I'm not a fan of putting a bunch of beads, powder or dust inside tires. I'll always go with a good wheel balance. I'd rather pay for balancing my tires than have them put crystals inside them for free.


I have noticed that if i keep the truck on cruise control and dont hit any bumps sometimes the shake will seem to fade.

Ive been watching tons of youtube videos about issues with the bead balancing and im 99% sure the beads are my issue. The can clump up on any amount of moisture, and i can see on the tires where the techs used lube to mount them! Theres tons of it! If you ask me, that lube must have made its way to the inside of the tire bead and mixed with the beads, causing them to clump.

So the question now is, can i have these tires road force balanced with the beads still in the tire? Or does the tire have to come off and get cleaned out? Really amazing help from everyone here! I needed this

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http://www.centramatic.com/wheel-balancer.rhtml?modelNumber=400-417

Heres what im thinking as a solution. They seem to have great feedback.

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Octaneforce wrote:



So the question now is, can i have these tires road force balanced with the beads still in the tire? Or does the tire have to come off and get cleaned out? Really amazing help from everyone here! I needed this


It sounds like you might be on to something.

With that said, if you want to balance them another way, the beads need to come out. The only way to do that is remove the tire.


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camperdave wrote:

maybe they left the beads in the bag? [emoticon]


Believe it or not thats how they're supposed to do it. Drop in the number of bags required, they break open when you head down the road.

In ours they've worked well.

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Bruce Brown wrote:

camperdave wrote:

maybe they left the beads in the bag? [emoticon]


Believe it or not thats how they're supposed to do it. Drop in the number of bags required, they break open when you head down the road.

In ours they've worked well.


I think the bag is part of the problem. One guy on youtube dismounts a tire that had beads for a short amount of time. He rolls the unmounted tire on the the ground and you can see the bag get all caught up and create clumps of beads.

https://youtu.be/ZxTzXDL80mI

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Bruce Brown wrote:

Octaneforce wrote:



So the question now is, can i have these tires road force balanced with the beads still in the tire? Or does the tire have to come off and get cleaned out? Really amazing help from everyone here! I needed this


It sounds like you might be on to something.

With that said, if you want to balance them another way, the beads need to come out. The only way to do that is remove the tire.


I cant have beads in the tires along with centramatic rings? I dont see why not. I feel like they would work together and allow for the ability to correct huge imbalances. Or at the very least, one would correct the other. However this is total bro science and i could be wrong.

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Posted: 09/18/19 04:48pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Maybe Centramatic rings, but not Road Force balance.

Balance them now with the beads in X location within the tire.

Drive 20 feet and the beads are now in a different spot. If you want to do a Road Force balance the beads gotta go.

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