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Cummins12V98

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Posted: 09/28/19 10:20am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

turbojimmy wrote:

Bob Vaughn wrote:

Wrong answer....An internet search reveals that the ground pin should be up....


That's really a commercial code requirement and has nothing to do with strain on the cord. It's so nothing can fall across the hot and neutral blades of the plug. Been there, done that with a steel tape measure.

For whatever reason residential receptacles don't have that requirement and are installed with the ground pins down.

With regard to the original post, and as others have said, my guess is that the horizontal arrangement has to do with manufacturing convenience than anything else. Mine has a standard 15 amp receptacle, mounted sideways, with standard spring-loaded flip-up type covers. It wouldn't matter which way it was installed from a weather protection perspective. I don't see how it would add extra strain to the plug or cord.


Building MANY Medical facilities in my career the receptacles had the ground up. But I also did MANY other types of buildings and none had the ground up. Notice if you place the ground up the writing will be upside down on the receptacle.


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Did anyone ever figure out why the OP thought the strain on the plug would be more if the outlet were horizontal rather than vertical? OP?


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fj12ryder wrote:

Did anyone ever figure out why the OP thought the strain on the plug would be more if the outlet were horizontal rather than vertical? OP?


ZERO difference on cord.

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My son is an Electrical PEng. We had this discussion recently. I asked him why do the outlets in the hospital have the universal ground up? He said and confirmed there is nothing in the Canadian NEC that states they are to be up.

I did have an Electrician explain that when using a metal face plate, and the plate falls off the outlet, it prevents the plate from possibly shorting out across the plug. Sounds reasonable.

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My house plugs controlled by a wall switch are mounted with the ground up (easy to identify) vs all other plugs. And only one of the 2 female outlets is controlled by the switch. So a single plug has both directions.


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NOTE I'm not concerned about breaking the outlet cover
But Raindrops keep falling on my Roof. That cover keeps them out of the electrical box Even when it is open. so long as it opens UP. Sideways it won't do that.


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

Did anyone ever figure out why the OP thought the strain on the plug would be more if the outlet were horizontal rather than vertical? OP?


ZERO difference on cord.

On most cords, yes. Some have a molded 90 degree end that sends the cord down, also some wall warts have the cord exit the bottom. Nothing I’d worry about personally.

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wnjj wrote:

Nothing I’d worry about personally.


How bout it? Maybe put it on the worry list after checking the torque of the caps on your valve stems lol.

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