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DFord

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DISH does not offer Distant Network, so you have to change you "Service address" thankfully I believe you can do that by smartphone app.
Dish told me the smartphone app can only change "local" channels if you have the Interrupted RV Service type of account. If you're using a receiver you pay for service along with the receiver at your house, they won't let you change them on your own. You'll need to call for tech support and give the an address. No matter where I'm at in Arizona, I look up a park address in Mesa and tell them I'm parked there so I'll get the Phoenix local stations. The agent you're talking with has no idea where you're actually parked. The locals are broadcast on "spot beams" that cover an area more or less 200-250 in diameter. As I recall, there are about 120 local markets around the country. I home locals are from St Louis but I don't bother to switch them when we travel in Missouri for a week or so. Last week we were in Sedalia about 200 miles from St Louis and still watched the St Louis local channels. A few years ago, we received them in Madison, WI (only at night). I say all this to let you know you don't need to switch locals as you travel across a state. Sometimes the spot beams overlap and you can make use of that. If you're 500 miles out of a market area, you'll have to switch. Also, the cost of locals may change from one market to another and that will be reflected on your bill.


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I want to thank everyone for their input. We are now in a few days going to be Dish Network people. I bought the "WINEGUARD PATHWAY X2 AUTOMATIC SATELLITE DISH WITH WINEGUARD TR-1518 TRIPOD MT" (actually found a used one from an elderly couple that had used it for a year and have quit RVing for $275. It is like brand new) Then I found a new VIP211K on Ebay for the RV. Dish will install everything we need in the house and they said they will let up the RV one for us as all the cables everything are run. Your advice as usual helped save many hours of research. Good by to Directv. They have become a joke.

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Great find and good price on the Pathway. I see it can tune both the Eastern and Western satellite arcs when needed. I believe the Vip211k is one of the best receivers Dish ever made. I've had several down through the years and it has all the features I need. It's small and includes an OTA tuner, offers several connection options and it's DVR capable by adding an external hard drive (get one with its own power supply - the small 2-1/2 inch drives are meant to be powered through the USB cable and I don't think the 211k has enough power to operate a drive like that).

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DFord wrote:

I say all this to let you know you don't need to switch locals as you travel across a state. Sometimes the spot beams overlap and you can make use of that. If you're 500 miles out of a market area, you'll have to switch. Also, the cost of locals may change from one market to another and that will be reflected on your bill.


There are several DISH CONUS markets that you can receive anywhere in the US -- Sacramento, CA for example.

Also, DISH locals cost a flat $10/month.


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There are several DISH CONUS markets that you can receive anywhere in the US -- Sacramento, CA for example.

Also, DISH locals cost a flat $10/month.
If this is true, why are they charging me $12.50 for the St Louis locals? As I travel around and request locals from the area I'm in, I'm charged different rates (and taxes) depending on which state/city I'm in.

I remember Dish losing a court battle in Florida many years ago and had to stop allowing "distance network" reception. Then a 3rd party (AllAmericanDirect.com) took it over until they failed. I haven't heard of any nationwide locals since they stopped offering them. Please enlighten us as to how to go about getting distance locals. I'd prefer some on the east coast so I can watch late night TV at a reasonable time.

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DFord wrote:

. . . why are they charging me $12.50 for the St Louis locals? As I travel around and request locals from the area I'm in, I'm charged different rates (and taxes) depending on which state/city I'm in.

My bad. The rate is now $12/month for local stations, not "distant locals". For me, that price is good everywhere as I've changed locals many times while traveling.


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Please enlighten us as to how to go about getting distance locals. I'd prefer some on the east coast so I can watch late night TV at a reasonable time.

You're confusing two different things:

  • Local TV coverage ($12/month) -- your local TV stations will appear in your DISH programming guide. When you travel outside your local TV station coverage, then you can change to other local stations.
  • Distant Network (like All American) -- a non-DISH service that used to provide East or West Coast TV stations (LA or NY I think). As you travelled around the country you could always count on receiving these stations because they were on CONUS sats.

Though DISH Distant Network service is no longer available, CONUS service is available for these TV markets:

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For example, if you have a Sacramento, CA address, then you could receive Sacramento locals in HD all across the country . . . as long as you can receive sat 119.

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So if I was to say I was at my son's house in the Baltimore service area, I would receive the Baltimore locals anywhere I go? I very seldom switch my antenna to the eastern arc so I use 119 almost all the time. I can't figure out why a small market like Springfield, MO would be broadcast nationwide. In fact many of the cities listed are very small markets. To have them available across the nation seems like a waste of bandwidth.

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DFord wrote:

So if I was to say I was at my son's house in the Baltimore service area, I would receive the Baltimore locals anywhere I go? I very seldom switch my antenna to the eastern arc so I use 119 almost all the time. I can't figure out why a small market like Springfield, MO would be broadcast nationwide. In fact many of the cities listed are very small markets. To have them available across the nation seems like a waste of bandwidth.

Your reply reminds me of the story about the guy who gave a panhandler $20. Then the panhandler complained that the $20 bill was wrinkled.

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TechWriter wrote:

Your reply reminds me of the story about the guy who gave a panhandler $20. Then the panhandler complained that the $20 bill was wrinkled.
And just what do you mean by that?

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I switched to dish after being with DTV for 20 years, I used to take my box with us but now I use the dishanywhere app, all you need is internet and either a smart tv or firestick or similar, I can connect right to my reciever/dvr at home and watch anything I can at home or what is recorded or record from where I'm at. I've used it with both ATT and Verizon hot spots.

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