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K3WE

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Posted: 10/01/19 04:27pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

SLIGHTLY off topic as I'm asking more about T(oad)Vs rather than T(ow)Vs.

BUT, this is the motorhead sub-forum - engines and drive trains and MPGs and all that fun stuff.

What do "we" think about hybrids these days?

The reason I ask is the DW was car shopping and was told that "hybrids only cost $800 more than equivalents with engines".

And hinted that this was the future for smaller cars and that this would have service and resale benefits.

The gas mileage is certainly tempting- and MAYBE electric motors and generators can be more reliable that gears and drive trains.

But, I was thinking after 4 years, you better be ready for a SERIOUS battery replacement bill?

Always look forward to discussions. (that's the objective)

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What’s four years? In the state of California, the warranty for a Toyota Prius is good for 10 years or 150,000 miles, whichever comes first. In other states, the hybrid battery warranty is good for 8 years or 100,000 miles.

Regarding the Volt...an 8 year/100,000 mile warranty on the Volt's 16 kWh battery pack.

* This post was edited 10/01/19 04:51pm by Lwiddis *


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Posted: 10/01/19 04:47pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think it all depends upon your personal life style. I could never use successfully. I tow a behemoth 5er, and the distance from home to work is ... well ... not practical from an electric car.

Others may have great success. Just like anything in life, you have to figure out if it will work for you. Do all the logistics and see where it leads. What is the most AGGRESSIVE most ROBUST demand you will put on your vehicle (NOT THE LIGHTEST, DAILY USE) ... and then find out if electric power can handle it, that is, the greatest demand you would EVER need from it, even if that need is for a very short duration. Then you have your answer.

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Posted: 10/01/19 04:55pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hybrids have both electric and gas propulsion. Not electric only.


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All hybrids have a LONG battery warranty. Typically 7+ years, or 10+ years in CARB states. And tend to have overall better reliability, while sometimes lowering maintenance costs because regenerative braking lessens brake wear.

They are ideal for a towed, since the planetary CVTs don't need pumped lubrication. But of course, check with the manufacturer. All Ford hybrid and plug-in hybrids are flat towable. Toyota are not at all. Other brands depend on specific models.


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OEM Engineer here, working in Hybrid technology...

Wife leased a plug in hybrid, and for her it was absolutely perfect. 90% of her travel was short distance electric only. But, when needed, she could fill up the gas tank.

Lot of kewl tech gadgets, I disagreed with how it handled battery charging while on the freeway, in that it didn't charge, but in general a good vehicle.

Hard compound tires do not like the snow, seats were not particularly comfortable for long trips.

She's now driving a F150, and in a couple of years F350.

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K3WE wrote:

The reason I ask is the DW was car shopping and was told that "hybrids only cost $800 more than equivalents with engines".

And hinted that this was the future for smaller cars and that this would have service and resale benefits.

Who gave your DW this information, the sales people?
Did they tell her that hybrids have gas engines?

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gbopp wrote:

K3WE wrote:

The reason I ask is the DW was car shopping and was told that "hybrids only cost $800 more than equivalents with engines".

And hinted that this was the future for smaller cars and that this would have service and resale benefits.

Who gave your DW this information, the sales people?
Did they tell her that hybrids have gas engines?


You got that right, hybrids cost the OEM's a bunch more than ICE. Salesman is full of brown stuff.

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Check this out if you are thinking about buying a hybrid car.

Pretty much on the money on every single point. I've owned mine for almost a year and everything he talked about is correct.


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Double post.

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