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kellem

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I'm in the market for a new 2500 and keep going back and forth......maybe that means all 3 are making formidable trucks. Lol

Still researching gassers.
The 6.4 ? The 6.6 ? The 7.3 ? Still debating.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

Ron3rd wrote:

I must be in the minority because the looks of the truck are way down at the bottom of the list for me. I'm fine with the looks of all of them. I shop with my wallet.

I suspect a lot of Ram's success has to do with price. My 2016 CTD was 10 grand less than a comparable GM or Ford, both of which are fine trucks. I was therefore able to drive a CTD for not much more than a GM or Ford gasser. Maybe the fact they're made in Mexico has something to do with the price advantage.


Could be but the majority of the parts are US Made.

Let's not forget where the Ford diesel is made.


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FCA Made in Mexico

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I will gladly pay more for a truck that is "Made in the USA".


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Dont kid yourself, any price advantage there is by building in Mexico isnt going to reduce the price. That price difference goes into their pocket, the consumer is not benefiting from that. The price is set on what the market will bring.


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Dont kid yourself, any price advantage there is by building in Mexico isnt going to reduce the price. That price difference goes into their pocket, the consumer is not benefiting from that. The price is set on what the market will bring.


To add injury to insult Ram is now owned by a foreign company (FCA)and they call all the shots. Including keeping Ram HD truck manufacturing in Mexico.

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FishOnOne wrote:

ksss wrote:

Dont kid yourself, any price advantage there is by building in Mexico isnt going to reduce the price. That price difference goes into their pocket, the consumer is not benefiting from that. The price is set on what the market will bring.


To add injury to insult Ram is now owned by a foreign company (FCA)and they call all the shots. Including keeping Ram HD truck manufacturing in Mexico.


Ram is owned by US based FCA US LLC which is a subsidiary of the Italian-American owned Fiat Chrysler Automobile group. Fiat Chrysler Automobile was a merger of American company, Chrysler, and Italian company, Fiat. Hence the reason why it is called FCA and not FA. Because of this, FCA US LLC has more autonomy from Fiat Chrysler Automobiles than most people think.

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In regards to price. If you look at average retail prices between the brands. Ram has historically been the lowest on average aside from the few years the high price SRT10 made their average sky rocket. Not sure if this from passed on saving from building in Mexico(which I am not against) or not, but the numbers seem to point to that.

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I will gladly pay more for a truck that is "Made in the USA".


To be honest. I think you would buy a Ford Powerstroke regardless if it were assembled in the US or not, and you just use the "assembled in USA" because you feel it gives you a one up on the Ram guys. I for one don't care, but I know a few that get their feathers ruffled because of it.

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ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:



I will gladly pay more for a truck that is "Made in the USA".


To be honest. I think you would buy a Ford Powerstroke regardless if it were assembled in the US or not, and you just use the "assembled in USA" because you feel it gives you a one up on the Ram guys. I for one don't care, but I know a few that get their feathers ruffled because of it.


Obviously you don't know me and touched on a hot topic... I almost purchased a Dodge Ram in 1998 for my personal truck and discovered it was Made in Mexico so I pulled the plug on that purchase. Before that I only owned GM products.

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ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

ksss wrote:

Dont kid yourself, any price advantage there is by building in Mexico isnt going to reduce the price. That price difference goes into their pocket, the consumer is not benefiting from that. The price is set on what the market will bring.


To add injury to insult Ram is now owned by a foreign company (FCA)and they call all the shots. Including keeping Ram HD truck manufacturing in Mexico.


Ram is owned by US based FCA US LLC which is a subsidiary of the Italian-American owned Fiat Chrysler Automobile group. Fiat Chrysler Automobile was a merger of American company, Chrysler, and Italian company, Fiat. Hence the reason why it is called FCA and not FA. Because of this, FCA US LLC has more autonomy from Fiat Chrysler Automobiles than most people think.

Ram Trucks


In regards to price. If you look at average retail prices between the brands. Ram has historically been the lowest on average aside from the few years the high price SRT10 made their average sky rocket. Not sure if this from passed on saving from building in Mexico(which I am not against) or not, but the numbers seem to point to that.


Don't kid yourself... Fiat calls the shots just like Daimler did.

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FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:



I will gladly pay more for a truck that is "Made in the USA".


To be honest. I think you would buy a Ford Powerstroke regardless if it were assembled in the US or not, and you just use the "assembled in USA" because you feel it gives you a one up on the Ram guys. I for one don't care, but I know a few that get their feathers ruffled because of it.


Obviously you don't know me and touched on a hot topic... I almost purchased a Dodge Ram in 1998 for my personal truck and discovered it was Made in Mexico so I pulled the plug on that purchase. Before that I only owned GM products.


Nah, I think you would still buy a PSD even if the rest of it were assembled in Mexico like the engine.

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FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

ksss wrote:

Dont kid yourself, any price advantage there is by building in Mexico isnt going to reduce the price. That price difference goes into their pocket, the consumer is not benefiting from that. The price is set on what the market will bring.


To add injury to insult Ram is now owned by a foreign company (FCA)and they call all the shots. Including keeping Ram HD truck manufacturing in Mexico.


Ram is owned by US based FCA US LLC which is a subsidiary of the Italian-American owned Fiat Chrysler Automobile group. Fiat Chrysler Automobile was a merger of American company, Chrysler, and Italian company, Fiat. Hence the reason why it is called FCA and not FA. Because of this, FCA US LLC has more autonomy from Fiat Chrysler Automobiles than most people think.

Ram Trucks


In regards to price. If you look at average retail prices between the brands. Ram has historically been the lowest on average aside from the few years the high price SRT10 made their average sky rocket. Not sure if this from passed on saving from building in Mexico(which I am not against) or not, but the numbers seem to point to that.


Don't kid yourself... Fiat calls the shots just like Daimler did.


FCA US LLC calls the shots in regards to the US brands since it is mostly the Chrysler side of FCA. FCA Group calls the shots in regards to earnings. There was an article about it not too long ago when they interviewed an exec. He specifically said that FCA group lets FCA US call the shots on their own products and brands unless that product or brand starts to lose profitability. I will post it when I find it again.

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