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mrdorkdar

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Posted: 10/11/19 10:38am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Why is GVWR so important? Isn’t that just the maximum amount of weight it can hold? I’m not towing the GVWR.

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mrdorkdar wrote:

Why is GVWR so important? Isn’t that just the maximum amount of weight it can hold? I’m not towing the GVWR.


Very true that it is what the trailer can hold. With a empty weight of 3800 lbs add a battery and propane you are around 4000. Another thing is a lot of manufacturers do not include things like the AC unit in the trailers empty weight either.
Here you see the empty trailer you are looking at is 3958 before battery and propane and weight distribution hitch which all 3 are necessities.

https://www.generalrv.com/product/new-2019-coachmen-rv-apex-nano-213rds-970825-29

Add another 220 lbs avg for those 3 you're up to 4205lbs before you put anything of your own in the trailer. It's very very easy to put 800lbs worth of stuff in a trailer reaching your max tow limit of 5000. At that 5000lbs you could have a tongue weight of anywhere from 500lbs to 750 lbs. If your SUV has a payload capacity of lets just say 1000 lbs you take that 750 from 1000 it leaves you with 250lbs to put into your suv before you are over your SUVs GVWR. Will you only have 250lbs worth of passengers and cargo in the SUV while towing?

If I were you and really want a trailer to tow with your SUV I would highly look into the RPod models....here is one that may fit your needs
https://forestriverinc.com/rvs/travel-trailers/r-pod-west-coast/RP-189/3949


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So the Atlas has about a 1400lb payload capacity. So if I always hook up for electricity and put my propane tank in the car instead of the trailer, and pack lightly this still seems to make sense. It would only be my wife and I traveling. Am I still crazy?

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Also in the manual it states to not use a weight or load leveling hitch.

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I love my Apex Nano.

That's all I have to say.


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Too much camper for you tow vehicle.

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So what lol so called SUV do you own that may or might be 5000 rated. Mostly modern day cough CUV including joke exploder and traverse can’t tow a utility trailer empty unless they have factory equipped tow package.


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Posted: 10/11/19 08:58pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would stick to something about 3500 pounds dry. I do recommend a WDH even if the vehicle does not.


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APT wrote:

I would stick to something about 3500 pounds dry. I do recommend a WDH even if the vehicle does not.


I gotta chime in on this.... If the manufacturer says not to do it.... DON"T!!!
This means that it has a unibody frame construction which is not strong enough to use WD on. One could concievably destroy the TV doing this.



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Huntindog wrote:

APT wrote:

I would stick to something about 3500 pounds dry. I do recommend a WDH even if the vehicle does not.


I gotta chime in on this.... If the manufacturer says not to do it.... DON"T!!!
This means that it has a unibody frame construction which is not strong enough to use WD on. One could concievably destroy the TV doing this.


What he said. I recall a post from someone who tried this with a Kia SUV, and ended up bending the rear suspension attachment points on the unibody.

The bottom line is that such vehicles are OK to pull a boat to the lake, or a utility trailer to the lumber yard, because those things have less tongue weight and are far more aerodynamic than a TT. A TT is the hardest to pull, pound for pound.

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So the Atlas has about a 1400lb payload capacity. So if I always hook up for electricity and put my propane tank in the car instead of the trailer, and pack lightly this still seems to make sense. It would only be my wife and I traveling. Am I still crazy?


The battery must by law remain on the trailer to power the emergency breakaway braking system. Also, putting stuff in the car counts against the payload too... Consider too, that even if you do all this, your towing experience is likely to involve a bouncing, lousy ride, poor handling on rough roads and windy conditions, and disconcerting sway when passed by semis--and yes, you will be passed by semis. Hills won't be any fun, either. Bad weather will compound all of the above.
There is a reason people prefer trucks.

* This post was edited 10/13/19 06:30am by drsteve *


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