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Bruce Brown

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Posted: 10/11/19 11:57am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

^^^ Yes and no. Accident? Not really. Incident? I'd go with that one.

An accident is many times caused by external forces beyond our control. An incident is normally something we bring on ourselves, normally caused by poor judgement.

I hunt; in todays hunters safety training they stress they are no longer called "hunting accidents", they're called "hunting incidents". I agree with their language.

That clearly will not buff out. Bummer.

The way the axle is twisted I'm thinking they'll be shopping for a new one vs repairing that one.


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Wow! Lifting that Class A MH up like that from the rear end? (extending the effective wheelbase by 10-11 feet then adding about 14,000 lbs. of REVERSE tongue weight) If the frame wasn't bent as a result of hitting the bollard, it probably is now. Ford does use highly ductile steel in their truck frames but this will be a good test to see just HOW good it is.

To be fair though, considering the damage and under the circumstances, I don't know what else the tow truck driver could have done to get the MH out of the fuel island in a timely manner.

The MH driver must have been really moving through that (really tight) fuel island to do that much damage. It didn't look like the bollard even budged.

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Posted: 10/11/19 04:59pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The driver must have been deaf or on the phone to do that much damage without hearing of feeling it and stopping sooner.


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Posted: 10/11/19 08:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I used to train school bus drivers, the biggest challenge I had was getting drivers to understand the need to use their mirrors. One CANNOT be a good driver if you fail to use your mirrors, especially with an oversized vehicle. Mirrors are the only way to know where your rear wheels are to curbs, tree branches, signs etc. Its a very hard thing to teach, people rarely check their mirrors and yet its the only way to be confident of where the vehicle truly is.
I'd tell my trainees "your a bobble head checking those mirrors right and left every minute." you can not pass the CDL test if its not done.
Create the habit of checking mirrors every minute or two and more frequently with turns and backing. Mirrors tell the real story, be wise and use them or pay someone to repair the damage of not being aware.

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My family has been in the towing business for 60+ years. As far as the tow went the tow truck was to small for the job but he done fine winching it away from the pumps. Even though I suspect he was fine picking it up by the hitch since that was the only thing he could do with that equipment. If he would have had the correct equipment he could have reached clear under and lifted it by the rear axel even though it was out of position, the axel was still attached to the springs but had moved. Would still have been an awkward tow that way. So considering his equipment I think he did the best he could. That business at that mud hole storage lot knocking off the mirror etc left something to be desired.
Owner of motor home didn't seem to be much concerned though.

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rgatijnet1 wrote:

Sometime stuff just happens. This might have been a momentary lapse in memory of which vehicle he was driving. Luckily it looks like no one was injured, which is the main thing.
I remember at one station where I was filling up and the RV next to me was pulling out to exit after he had filled his tank. He did not exit straight out of his position and caught his rear overhang on the island guard. It ripped his rear cap right off and left it dangling before he stopped. This was a diesel pusher and I guess the damages amounted to $20,000 plus, not to mention the horror of having to listen to his DW about everything he did wrong and how this ruined the trip, gave her "age" lines, etc. I'm sure this guy's significant other will remind him of this incident for decades to come.

silly assessment in your state all would need to do it and horns need to be disconnected


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wallynm wrote:

The driver must have been deaf or on the phone to do that much damage without hearing of feeling it and stopping sooner.


Or the fact that some people are simply morons. Maybe the driver was. My brother in law is one. He can break anything or wreck anything. If he wants to borrow a tool or piece of equipment I know I'll be fixing it, sharpening it, or replacing it when returned. He wrote the encyclopedia on cutting dirt and rocks with chainsaws.

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Bert Ackerman wrote:

wallynm wrote:

The driver must have been deaf or on the phone to do that much damage without hearing of feeling it and stopping sooner.


Or the fact that some people are simply morons. Maybe the driver was. My brother in law is one. He can break anything or wreck anything. If he wants to borrow a tool or piece of equipment I know I'll be fixing it, sharpening it, or replacing it when returned. He wrote the encyclopedia on cutting dirt and rocks with chainsaws.


A friend of mine who was an auto tech for +30 years had this sign posted in his garage, . . . . . . in big bold letters:

"NO TOOLS LOANED, PLEASE DON'T ASK"

He was VERY particular about his tools. He was more than happy to help most people with just about anything. But, . . . . . just DON'T touch his tools.

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Check the video! At some point early on, the tow truck guy stated that the axle was out of position but they could probably loosen the shackle and move it back into position to "make it towable" (His words) Which I took to mean towable from the front. Somewhere along the way this plan was abandoned and they were "forced" to tow from the rear. Without knowing what actually happened to that plan, we should refrain from criticizing the tow driver. It would have been a tough job to move the axle back into position for front towing, and maybe impossible in this circumstance. Give the guy a break. He's the on site expert and has to make difficult decisions on the spot without our benefit of 20-20 hind sight.


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I wonder how many of the folks here clamoring for mandatory training and licensing actually had said training themselves? Some, Im sure, but I bet not all. Of course when they were learning, things were different.

And the bit about getting an attorney? Please... Im guessing you have one on speed dial?

Its amazing all the speculation.

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