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4x4van

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WVcampground wrote:



A visual inspection for such things on a watercraft is a total joke and waste of time. It's nothing more than a Government sponsored feel good measure like a firewood quarantine.
You might feel different about that firewood thing if you saw the millions of dead trees in the forests of CA due to the drought taking a toll on trees that were weakened by Bark Beetles. And watercraft & boats? They only check to make sure that the drain plug is removed so that any Quagga Mussells (go ahead, look them up) will dry out and die before being transferred to another fresh water body.

Amazes me how adamant some can be about their "rights" to not be subject to a 1 minute delay in an effort to prevent major problems down the road.


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4x4van wrote:

WVcampground wrote:



A visual inspection for such things on a watercraft is a total joke and waste of time. It's nothing more than a Government sponsored feel good measure like a firewood quarantine.
You might feel different about that firewood thing if you saw the millions of dead trees in the forests of CA due to the drought taking a toll on trees that were weakened by Bark Beetles. And watercraft & boats? They only check to make sure that the drain plug is removed so that any Quagga Mussells (go ahead, look them up) will dry out and die before being transferred to another fresh water body.

Amazes me how adamant some can be about their "rights" to not be subject to a 1 minute delay in an effort to prevent major problems down the road.


I won't. Because a Pine Beetle, or what your calling a bark beetle, is not an invasive species, it's native. Its current explosion is due to forest mismanagement. A single female mussel releases up to a million eggs per year that are transferred by birds from one body or water to another.

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Pull up with your sunglasses OFF! Look them in the eye, let them speak FIRST.

Oh good grief. What, the fruit police are now the gestapo?


Do what you want but excellent advice for international border crossings, immigrant checkpoints and yes fruit stops.


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My dark glasses always came of at the fruit inspection but maybe never have to do that again. Not a route we take anymore for good reasons.

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Acampingwewillgo wrote:

Just for kicks, and I don't know if this is still done or not but a number of years ago while traveling the New cross-over at Hoover Dam, there was a check-point. Not border patrol or Ag inspection but one that required all RV's to stop and open up your compartments( can't recall if they also entered the RV)…. it was a no brainer but I suppose that if you refused, you would not be allowed to cross.


We were just there last month, cute little blonde girl with a glock, asked if they (another girl, and a guy) could search the RV. I said OK, then she asked if we had any weapons onboard and I replied YES.. She looked concerned and told me I could not proceed and had to go around and not over the dam


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

Pull up with your sunglasses OFF! Look them in the eye, let them speak FIRST. The I-5 SB inspection station coming from Oregon will ask if you have and fruit, now you can answer by clearly stating what fruit you have and where it was purchased.

NEVER an issue.


Sunglasses off? If I don't have glasses on my face my DL is not valid. Fumbling around trying to change them does not sound like a safe way to approach a paranoid with a gun.

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What has got me riled a few times is the Invasive Water Species check points. We sometime pack out kayaks on trips. They don't have any enclosed areas. Just a big open plastic shell.
There's checkpoints at rest areas and you're required to stop.
It could be twice in one day in the same state.
Really annoying especially when you don't plan on using the kayaks in that state. And if you do you still have to get inspected at the lake even after two inspections prior in the same state.


I too am a kayaker. Unless you have rinsed and towel-dried your kayaks, you could still be transporting invasive species larvae in some splash water or mud; or even the smallest shred of something like Eurasian Milfoil or Starry Stonewort can be carried into a lake, where it grows into a mess that will cost hundreds-of-thousands of dollars to control. Many kayaks (especially the cheaper ones) do NOT drain completely, there's often a lip around the cockpit that retains a little water - and that's all it takes to spread AIS (aquatic invasive species)

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Alan_Hepburn wrote:

You certainly have the right to refuse a search, but then they also have the right to tell you to turn around and go back the way you came...


Yes and a poor attitude can be reported in a database.

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dodge guy wrote:

All I can say is it's keeping a lot of people out of California.


If only we could keep a lot of people from California out of Indiana, our roads might be safer! Gone are the days of Sunday look-ie-loo drives in the early afternoon. Do that today and 10 cars from California pile behind you on a back country blowing their horns because you are not running 90 mph on a back county road intended for 30 mph traffic and there's Amish horse poo all over the road!

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DutchmenSport wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

All I can say is it's keeping a lot of people out of California.


If only we could keep a lot of people from California out of Indiana, our roads might be safer! Gone are the days of Sunday look-ie-loo drives in the early afternoon. Do that today and 10 cars from California pile behind you on a back country blowing their horns because you are not running 90 mph on a back county road intended for 30 mph traffic and there's Amish horse poo all over the road!


What do you think the attraction is? The Amish horse poo?

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