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Donna Jean

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do they stop cars to inspect or just campers and trailers?


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Cars, RVs, even motorcycles, all have to stop. Commercial carriers are handled separately.

An actual inspection is a small percentage. Often you won't even stop, just get waved through.


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Donna Jean wrote:

do they stop cars to inspect or just campers and trailers?


All, theoretically.

But there is an ebb in inspection and sometimes just wave off cars depending on current risk or imminent danger of contamination.

Inspection is stricter on those traveling interstate specially when asked, you happen to have passed by a state having pest infestations.

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WVcampground wrote:

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A visual inspection for such things on a watercraft is a total joke and waste of time. It's nothing more than a Government sponsored feel good measure like a firewood quarantine.
You might feel different about that firewood thing if you saw the millions of dead trees in the forests of CA due to the drought taking a toll on trees that were weakened by Bark Beetles. And watercraft & boats? They only check to make sure that the drain plug is removed so that any Quagga Mussells (go ahead, look them up) will dry out and die before being transferred to another fresh water body.

Amazes me how adamant some can be about their "rights" to not be subject to a 1 minute delay in an effort to prevent major problems down the road.


I won't. Because a Pine Beetle, or what your calling a bark beetle, is not an invasive species, it's native. Its current explosion is due to forest mismanagement. A single female mussel releases up to a million eggs per year that are transferred by birds from one body or water to another.
Firewood bans are in place to prevent native species from invading non-native areas. And as for Quagga Mussells, although transfer by birds is theoretically possible, it has never actually been demonstrated, and considering the millions of tax dollars that have been spent because of the destruction to watersheds that they have caused, I'm not so arrogant to claim that 30 seconds to a minute of my time at a California Ag station is more important than helping to fight something that could possibly cause millions of (my) dollars in damage. Maybe google "Asian Citrus Psyllid", or "Mediterranean Fruit Fly". Free and easy travel has created many issues, not just the ones we are discussing here. But thanks, I always welcome someone from the east coast "educating me" on my home state and what is important here on the west coast. [emoticon]

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bpounds wrote:

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A few years ago the Calexico border checkpoint was backed up...Did not even ask for passports...


Checkpoint, or border crossing? Why would you need a passport at a checkpoint? Checkpoints are often many miles inside the country. Citizens mostly would not be carrying passports.


The border crossing from Mexico. Surprised the heck outta me they waved me through without stopping. [emoticon]

Makes you real confident they are keeping us safe, doesn't it?


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But thanks, I always welcome someone from the east coast "educating me" on my home state and what is important here on the west coast. [emoticon]


Don't mention it. Hopefully you're far from the fires and have not had your power shut off. Maybe you all could use some education from the East coast.

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WVcampground wrote:

4x4van wrote:

But thanks, I always welcome someone from the east coast "educating me" on my home state and what is important here on the west coast. [emoticon]


Don't mention it. Hopefully you're far from the fires and have not had your power shut off. Maybe you all could use some education from the East coast.


Just keep the snowflakes with an attitude home.[emoticon]

And that education, would that involve sweeping the forest to prevent forest fire and wanting Pleasure in Paradise city?[emoticon]

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California has a multi-billion agricultural industry that the state is trying to protect from pests.

The mandate extend to invasive species that could play havoc on it's forests and bodies of water.

Hence, CA's borders have inspectors.

Yes, those produce and firewood can be asked to be off loaded.


Yep yep yep. California is the only state in the country with multi-billion agricultural industry.

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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

WVcampground wrote:

4x4van wrote:

But thanks, I always welcome someone from the east coast "educating me" on my home state and what is important here on the west coast. [emoticon]


Don't mention it. Hopefully you're far from the fires and have not had your power shut off. Maybe you all could use some education from the East coast.


Just keep the snowflakes with an attitude home.[emoticon]

And that education, would that involve sweeping the forest to prevent forest fire and wanting Pleasure in Paradise city?[emoticon]
I agree that decades of CA forest mismanagement and liberal environmentalist policies are to blame for the fires, although CA's vegetation and environment is not in any way similar to the east coast, so any comparison is invalid from the get-go. I know people often ask why would anyone live in CA with the fires and earthquakes; but the same could be asked about those in the Mississippi river valley who continue to rebuild after the river floods every few years, or those along the east coast who get hit with hurricanes over and over, or those in tornado alley, or...

Although I'm still not sure what any of that has to do with a 30 second delay at an AG station. I may be old, but I think I can spare 30 seconds or so once in a blue moon. Will the inspection actually make a difference? Maybe, maybe not; that is indeed debatable. But will that 30 seconds lost degrade my life in any way? Certainly not, although YMMV.

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JRscooby wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:


California has a multi-billion agricultural industry that the state is trying to protect from pests.

The mandate extend to invasive species that could play havoc on it's forests and bodies of water.

Hence, CA's borders have inspectors.

Yes, those produce and firewood can be asked to be off loaded.


Yep yep yep. California is the only state in the country with multi-billion agricultural industry.
Nope, but it is the highest; nearly double 2nd place Iowa ($50 billion vs $27 billion).

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