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jimh425

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Posted: 10/25/19 11:49am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sliding-into-home wrote:

4wd doesn't remove the chain requirement in OR (and WA too I think) if you're over 10k GVWR. That said, I haven't seen anyone pulled over or ticketed for driving a camper in a chains required zone with 4wd and traction tires.


It’s GVW not GVWR. Back to my point of needing a truck without truck camper, law or not, almost all trucks are under 10K GVW unless you are hauling a significant load.

I don’t know about you, but I’d just wait until it is better weather since I can’t think of any reason why I need to go through a pass when a signifiant storm is occuring with truck camper or other heavy load.


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Well, honestly, I travelled all over BC, Texas, Alaska, east to Newfoundland, many trips to Arizona, all with camper on 2 w/d truck, and never an issue. Drove in snow at times too.....however, this was never off road travel....When I bought a trailer I decided I might need 4x4 just for backing into some soft ground camping spots, or towing in snow if I got caught getting over a pass....this proved to be a good thing as 4x4 did save my butt a couple of times with the trailer.....now I into a camper again with 4x4 truck and honestly, only use it for climbing up onto blocks when leveling at camping spot.


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Sliding-into-home wrote:

4wd doesn't remove the chain requirement in OR (and WA too I think) if you're over 10k GVWR. That said, I haven't seen anyone pulled over or ticketed for driving a camper in a chains required zone with 4wd and traction tires.


Made me look..LOL

Non-commercial vehicles and trailers, RVs, etc.
Vehicle, trailer and load combinations that are under 10,000 pounds must follow regular chain requirements. Vehicle, trailer and load combinations that are more than 10,000 pounds must chain up when "chains required" is posted - even if 4WD/AWD. Consult Commercial vehicles chain requirements for chain placement - which is required based on weight not type of vehicle.


So having a 4X4 makes absolutely no difference in chain requirements hauling a Truck Camper,if I understood that right..


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Speaking on behalf of the truck alone, I have never met anyone who has said “I wish I had bought a 2WD”. I have met dozens of people who have said “I wish I had held out for a 4WD”. I grew up in small rural USA and live in a rural community- As others here have already said I think it’s about the “truck” and your lifestyle.


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jaycocreek wrote:

That's kinda a missed conception about truck campers and hunting..Once you go so big with a truck camper,you are very limited on where you can go with it..If you have a pop-up TC,then you can go about anywhere with it and 4X4 would be necessary probably,to take full advantage of the unit..


We were at Henry's Lake a month ago and it was already snowing there. We drove the county road around the back side of the lake and saw lots of hardside TC's camping in "non-developed" campsites. If I lived in a western state, 2wd or 4wd would be a VERY easy decision for me. OOMV. [emoticon]

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GAR2 wrote:

Speaking on behalf of the truck alone, I have never met anyone who has said “I wish I had bought a 2WD”. I have met dozens of people who have said “I wish I had held out for a 4WD”. I grew up in small rural USA and live in a rural community- As others here have already said I think it’s about the “truck” and your lifestyle.


Ditto. The two DRWs I've owned would get stuck on wet grass in my yard in 2wd. With all the weight of that big motor over the front tires, rear wheel traction is minimal.

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jimh425 wrote:

Sliding-into-home wrote:

4wd doesn't remove the chain requirement in OR (and WA too I think) if you're over 10k GVWR. That said, I haven't seen anyone pulled over or ticketed for driving a camper in a chains required zone with 4wd and traction tires.


It’s GVW not GVWR. Back to my point of needing a truck without truck camper, law or not, almost all trucks are under 10K GVW unless you are hauling a significant load.

I don’t know about you, but I’d just wait until it is better weather since I can’t think of any reason why I need to go through a pass when a signifiant storm is occuring with truck camper or other heavy load.


Yes, GVW. My mistake.

And yes, wait if you can. I use my TC almost exclusively for skiing, so being forced to drive mountain passes during significant snow storms is what I hope for. My kid does ski team too, so I have to go no matter the weather.

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When I started shopping for a truck and camper combination, I really wanted a 4x4 but I came across a deal that was too good to pass up though and it was 2WD. In retrospect, I think I'm pretty happy with going 2WD, especially on the 7.3. I get the gentler coil over suspension up front instead of leaf springs plus a better gearing ratio for highway cruising and I also gain a few hundred pounds in payload capacity.

As I'm contemplating purchasing an Expedition Max (expanding family) I'm faced with the same dilemma. We will be purchasing used so this decision might be made for me just based on what is available. If I had my choice though, I think I would prefer to get the 4WD but with the gearing of the 2WD (I don't think this is possible). I get why they put lower gearing on the 4WD but the loss in MPG over the life of the vehicle I don't think justifies the one or two times in a lifetime most people might need that extra low gearing ratio.

In California, I think 4WD is more of an option than a necessity. Our weather is so mild on the coast and valley that it is unnecessary in my opinion. The only reason I am contemplating 4WD for the Expedition is for the few times we might be in the Sierras during the winter coming over a mountain pass. Rare if at all but still, if I'm spending the money, might as well be prepared.

In regards to the 7.3 that is 2WD and carries the camper, I've been to Pismo Beach many times now and only got stuck the first time I went. All the others I just air down to 15-20 psi and I have not had a problem yet. As someone else already said, a camper isn't optimal for the types of off-road conditions that might really require 4WD.


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It’s GVW not GVWR. Back to my point of needing a truck without truck camper, law or not, almost all trucks are under 10K GVW unless you are hauling a significant load.


Sorry, but that is not correct....
GVW =Gross Vehicle Weight. This is what my vehicle weighs at any given time according to how it is loaded. This is not known by anyone without driving over a scale.

GVWR = Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. This is what is on the manufacturer door post sticker weight rating for my vehicle. This is the rating posted on the road signs. This would be the only reference figures a LEO could use. They have no way of knowing my GVW unless they had a portable road scale.

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Z-Peller wrote:

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It’s GVW not GVWR. Back to my point of needing a truck without truck camper, law or not, almost all trucks are under 10K GVW unless you are hauling a significant load.


Sorry, but that is not correct....
GVW =Gross Vehicle Weight. This is what my vehicle weighs at any given time according to how it is loaded. This is not known by anyone without driving over a scale.

GVWR = Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. This is what is on the manufacturer door post sticker weight rating for my vehicle. This is the rating posted on the road signs. This would be the only reference figures a LEO could use. They have no way of knowing my GVW unless they had a portable road scale.


GVW is actually what the letter of the law says in Oregon.

https://oregon.public.law/rules/oar_734-017-0015

(edit: I think they're still maybe referring to GVWR with the phrase "rated gross vehicle weight."

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