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Kayteg1

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Posted: 11/01/19 09:27am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Jim had me going with his legend till he made the boat ramp issue.
I've been launching boats with motorhomes, bus conversions, RWD Chevy vans (who actually suck on everything, but size) , RWD flatbeds, and traction was never issue.
I recall slight issue with FWD Volkswagen pickup, but still manageable.





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ticki2 wrote:

You should ell your friend in the video to lift the plow when they back up.


I don't know the guy from Adam but I assume he was back blading,a normal thing in plowing and grading,sometimes..I back blade our driveway quite alot saving on the amount of piles in the yard.And back blading makes for a nice smooth surface..

His 16-1700# in the rear of his 2WD DRW certainly mimics a small pop up or Lance type TC on that 2WD DRW..Traction was not an issue as the video shows..

He also said they were having some plow issues,that could also be why he didn't raise the blade..Hydraulics in the cold can really raise havoc sometimes..

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Kayteg1 wrote:

Jim had me going with his legend till he made the boat ramp issue.
I've been launching boats with motorhomes, bus conversions, RWD Chevy vans (who actually suck on everything, but size) , RWD flatbeds, and traction was never issue.
I recall slight issue with FWD Volkswagen pickup, but still manageable.


There are big tide changes in Puget Sound. I’ve seen more than one vehicle stuck on the ramp because of algae or mud on retrieval. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Usually, someone feels sorry for them and hooks a chain/tow strap to their front.

BTW, also happens on rivers and lakes. Try a search for vehicle stuck on boat ramp. Some ramps are extremely steep as well.

Fwiw, it was all true, but I don’t know if you should believe me since it is the internet ...


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jimh425 wrote:

Kayteg1 wrote:

Jim had me going with his legend till he made the boat ramp issue.
I've been launching boats with motorhomes, bus conversions, RWD Chevy vans (who actually suck on everything, but size) , RWD flatbeds, and traction was never issue.
I recall slight issue with FWD Volkswagen pickup, but still manageable.


There are big tide changes in Puget Sound. I’ve seen more than one vehicle stuck on the ramp because of algae or mud on retrieval. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Usually, someone feels sorry for them and hooks a chain/tow strap to their front.

BTW, also happens on rivers and lakes. Try a search for vehicle stuck on boat ramp. Some ramps are extremely steep as well.

Fwiw, it was all true, but I don’t know if you should believe me since it is the internet ...


Also add to that the ramps that have a series of concrete bars with gravel in between below the water level. I saw a RWD truck stuck between those until they removed the boat, pulled forward some and then re-loaded. Not all boat ramps are in the desert where the water gets low enough to pave a nice ramp well into the water.

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OK, now you guys have me convinced.
Next truck I buy will have to be 4x4 only becouse maybe in 5, maybe in 10 years I might launch my boat at low water that is below concrete ramp slab.
Screw the big thousands dollars the option will cost me till the time.

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Kayteg1 wrote:

OK, now you guys have me convinced.
Next truck I buy will have to be 4x4 only becouse maybe in 5, maybe in 10 years I might launch my boat at low water that is below concrete ramp slab.
Screw the big thousands dollars the option will cost me till the time.


Again, not big thousands. Besides, your truck should be good for a while, and as I noted, I’m pretty sure someone will pull you out. You should probably bring a tow strap with you. [emoticon]

Besides, there’s probably not a lot tide changes in Nevada.

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Kayteg1 wrote:


Screw the big thousands dollars the option will cost me till the time.


LMAO!!!!!!

What "big thousands dollars" are you referring to?

In the state that I live in the "big thousands dollars" that will cost you is when you try and sell a 2wd pickup. You wont get squat for it.

Nobody here wants one because they are useless in the snow and just bout any other adverse weather conditions without putting chains on or some other traction devise.

I would much rather reach over and pull back on a lever than stop, get out and install a set of tire chains.

200,000 miles on my pickup and I have not put one single penny into any 4wd drive train components.

I've watched numerous 2wd trucks struggle trying to get their boat out of the water.

Don't want one, don't buy one. I didn't want a 2wd pickup and never will own another one.

A lot of people get by just fine with a 2wd pickup an that's great. I'm happy they work great for you.

Camper or no camper a 2wd pickup truck does not have the same capabilities that a 4wd pick up does. They never have and they never will.


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200,000 miles on my pickup and I have not put one single penny into any 4wd drive train components.


Might wanna service them once in a while..Just sayin'...LOL

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specta wrote:

200,000 miles on my pickup and I have not put one single penny into any 4wd drive train components.


Since 1981, I've owned 8 new 4x4 trucks and jeeps. I've never spent a single nickel on a 4x4 driveline related repair on any of them.

I also have a highly modified TJ which I have spent a small fortune on......but that is another story. [emoticon] [emoticon] [emoticon]

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As I mentioned earlier,I am not anti 4WD..I have two in the driveway,a Yamaha Rhino in the garage and a Chevy HD 2500 that is here most of the time..None of them are camper toters for how I use a TC..

The point of this thread was do you need 4X4 with a truck camper on?..I have not seen one picture of a 4X4 with a heavy TC on anywhere I could take my 2WD DRW..Kaytegs was the closest but he did it in 2WD...

Why,because these big/heavy and wide truck campers are not meant to be off roading..They make the front end lite going up a grade and are to wide to maneuver in the mountains..

I have seen DJ's trip on the Magruder road,awesome but I have taken my truck and TC on the same road,4X4 is not necessary and 4 Low certainly has it's perks but with my 4:10's and super engine compression,I do just fine and I am not tippy on side hills and narrower than any of the new truck campers..

So show me a picture of a 4X4 with a hardsided truck camper somewhere anyone with a 2WD DRW can't (shouldn't) go besides the sand(Not much around here)LOL

I also have never had any 4X4 drivetrain expenses including the two older ones in my yard.

I put my 8'6" Lance on this and drove around the block and took it right off..It was a fun truck though but not a TC toter for sure..LOL

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