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LanceRKeys

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Posted: 10/28/19 09:13am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Play with your tire air pressure some. It makes a big difference in my truck.

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Nighduckman wrote:

Honestly, I am a bit embarrassed to say (as a newbie) that I hadn't checked. The truck is all of three weeks old and I put a brand new set of General Grabber ATX tires on the rear for traction if I ever encounter mud etc. So, the tires were running at whatever pressure the dealership and the tire dealer set them at. Now I know better. I stopped by a 4x4 shop this AM and they said, as I have heard from others, that it might be a good idea to put a set of "helper springs" on the rear as that could address some of the squat and make the ride feel more solid and the steering a bit more sure. Since we want to eventually get a camper once we downsize from the fiver, and special rear springs are what is included in the Ford "camper package" upgrade, it strikes me as a reasonable modification and one that isn't too expensive. Certainly won't hurt.


You have 3800lbs of payload capacity. I would think you don't need helper springs as you have more capacity than most 1 ton SRW diesels do.That camper you talk of what type are you talking about most here consider a 5th or TT or pop up to be a camper


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Posted: 10/28/19 09:53am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

OP wrote:

I put a brand new set of General Grabber ATX tires on the rear for traction if I ever encounter mud etc.

This can lead to handling issues when empty and especially with a trailer in tow or just carrying a heavy load in the bed.

Your OEM front tires may be a all season type tread which are great for handling issues vs a ATX with large lugs and large voids. They simply won't track the front tires like OEM.

Weight in the bed plus a trailer pushing the back of the truck around in hard side winds/curvy roads.......
New tires can have tread roll (sway) before their broke in....
To much or to little pressure can lead to tread roll.....

Once the tires are broke in I would play around with front and rear tire pressures.

If that doesn't help the issues then I would put the OEM tires back on the rear.
On every truck I have/had I buy a pair of wheels and have MT type tires mounted. That way I can get around in muddy worksites or out in my muddy/deep snow pastures or just to get out to a state highway (7 miles) during big s=now events.


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Gravity being what it is, a couple inches of sag when loaded is normal. I would not worry about it.


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Too much goofy speculation. From what you said, everything is 100% fine.
Couple inches of sag is to be expected with a moderate load in the bed. F250s have a rather soft initial spring rate and stiffen up after that. You can add whatever you want to the back to stiffen it up more if that's your desire, won't hurt anything.
No your AT tires are not making it drive bad (save for maybe a bit of tread squirm when brand new). It will drive slightly different, lol, with a 5th wheel trailer hooked up. Some folks don't understand that.
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Thanks for all the great suggestions and reassurance.

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librty02 wrote:

You have 3800lbs of payload capacity. I would think you don't need helper springs as you have more capacity than most 1 ton SRW diesels do.That camper you talk of what type are you talking about most here consider a 5th or TT or pop up to be a camper


Answer: I was talking about a truck-bed-mounted camper. Once my wife and I are ready to downsize from our fifth wheel, we have been thinking about getting a truck camper which is one of the reasons we went w/ the 2WD F250 to get some extra payload capacity. At 3,759 lbs of available payload, a rear GAWR of 6,340 lbs and a 10,000 lbs GVWR there appear to be a few of the lighter truck campers that would work though not with all the comforts of a fiver for sure.

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Posted: 10/28/19 10:53pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

That trailer has a MORryde orbital pin box as an option. If you have this option, make sure your hitch wedge is properly installed with no slop. Don't tow without a wedge installed.

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Nighduckman wrote:

Honestly, I am a bit embarrassed to say (as a newbie) that I hadn't checked. The truck is all of three weeks old and I put a brand new set of General Grabber ATX tires on the rear for traction if I ever encounter mud etc. So, the tires were running at whatever pressure the dealership and the tire dealer set them at. Now I know better. I stopped by a 4x4 shop this AM and they said, as I have heard from others, that it might be a good idea to put a set of "helper springs" on the rear as that could address some of the squat and make the ride feel more solid and the steering a bit more sure. Since we want to eventually get a camper once we downsize from the fiver, and special rear springs are what is included in the Ford "camper package" upgrade, it strikes me as a reasonable modification and one that isn't too expensive. Certainly won't hurt.


It won't hurt anything but keep in mind the 4x4 shop is in business to sell upgrades. 2" of squat is not a big deal and shouldn't cause any issues.

I was suggesting taking it to a repair shop to make sure nothing was broken. Your truck is more than adequate as it came from the dealer for what you are towing.


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I embrace my couple of inches of sag as it helps me get closer to a level tow on an otherwise nose high condition. If the truck is also going to be a daily driver, realize that there will be a price for adding the extra springs in the way of a rougher unloaded ride.


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