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Bobbo wrote:

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Towing 3 tons of trailer, or more, at 65 mph for 250 to 300 miles before a recharge is needed? This is an RV forum. If it can't do that under common towing conditions, then for us it can't do that.


If you are expecting 15 minutes recharge cycle from a nearly fully drawn or drained battery, then this is not for you.

There is nothing yet except speculation of a claim of 500 mile range. Again, it's not yet independently tested under towing conditions nor to verify the range under actual driving conditions.

My own benchmark as I want a Tesla pick up mainly for my RV towing, is a range of 300 miles.

I usually take my lunch coinciding with my gas up which takes me about 45 to 1 hour, then that's much I tolerate for the recharging. My other wish list is that campsites will have superchargers.

Thank you. My point, exactly, is that an EV will not allow me to do what I do now with my ICE. Or, even get close.

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I don’t think I would need 300 miles if towing range as we would never travel that far without a substantial break. Maybe 400 kilometers max would work.

Everyone's needs are different. Last September, we spent 5 weeks doing a leaf changing tour in the northeast US. It took us 4 days just to get to our starting point, driving 400 to 500 miles per day. At 250 to 300 miles per day, it would have taken us a week just to get to our starting point.


Yep. Right tool for the right job.

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Bobbo wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Bobbo wrote:

Towing 3 tons of trailer, or more, at 65 mph for 250 to 300 miles before a recharge is needed? This is an RV forum. If it can't do that under common towing conditions, then for us it can't do that.


If you are expecting 15 minutes recharge cycle from a nearly fully drawn or drained battery, then this is not for you.

There is nothing yet except speculation of a claim of 500 mile range. Again, it's not yet independently tested under towing conditions nor to verify the range under actual driving conditions.

My own benchmark as I want a Tesla pick up mainly for my RV towing, is a range of 300 miles.

I usually take my lunch coinciding with my gas up which takes me about 45 to 1 hour, then that's much I tolerate for the recharging. My other wish list is that campsites will have superchargers.

Thank you. My point, exactly, is that an EV will not allow me to do what I do now with my ICE. Or, even get close.


And I'm pretty sure Tesla won't force you. [emoticon][emoticon]

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Actually there are about two dozen ChargePoint charging stations around the area of Foothills NC as found by Google.

And your home has electricity, Yes?

https://www.google.com/maps/search/[email protected],-81.9816142,9z/data=!3m1!4b1


Two dozen. Wow. Just not close to me, or where I go. When they put one on every corner like gas stations. Then we will talk. Right now. I'm not real sure the factories would like for me to hookup to their company car charging stations.

I just did 568 miles in 10 hours. Could I do that with a EV? Nope.


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Terryallan wrote:

time2roll wrote:

Actually there are about two dozen ChargePoint charging stations around the area of Foothills NC as found by Google.

And your home has electricity, Yes?

https://www.google.com/maps/search/[email protected],-81.9816142,9z/data=!3m1!4b1


Two dozen. Wow. Just not close to me, or where I go. When they put one on every corner like gas stations. Then we will talk. Right now. I'm not real sure the factories would like for me to hookup to their company car charging stations.


Don't you have electricity in your own home?

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Terryallan wrote:

time2roll wrote:

Actually there are about two dozen ChargePoint charging stations around the area of Foothills NC as found by Google.

And your home has electricity, Yes?

https://www.google.com/maps/search/[email protected],-81.9816142,9z/data=!3m1!4b1


Two dozen. Wow. Just not close to me, or where I go. When they put one on every corner like gas stations. Then we will talk. Right now. I'm not real sure the factories would like for me to hookup to their company car charging stations.
Ok so you will not have an EV any time soon. Still the EV will work for many. Be happy for those that can go first and blaze the trail for the rest. When the time is right it will be an easy choice. For some that time will be long in the future or possibly never.


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time2roll wrote:

Terryallan wrote:

time2roll wrote:

Actually there are about two dozen ChargePoint charging stations around the area of Foothills NC as found by Google.

And your home has electricity, Yes?

https://www.google.com/maps/search/[email protected],-81.9816142,9z/data=!3m1!4b1


Two dozen. Wow. Just not close to me, or where I go. When they put one on every corner like gas stations. Then we will talk. Right now. I'm not real sure the factories would like for me to hookup to their company car charging stations.
Ok so you will not have an EV any time soon. Still the EV will work for many. Be happy for those that can go first and blaze the trail for the rest. When the time is right it will be an easy choice. For some that time will be long in the future or possibly never.


For some, never, because of political reasons.

They think they are tree-hugger, climate change believer and libs mobile.[emoticon][emoticon][emoticon]

Others, they don't want their cars or truck smarter than them.[emoticon]

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I wonder if they will start building in generator and fuel tank so you can recharge every 200 miles or so? Or maybe a towable solar array a 10000 lb capacity trailer should hold enough fold out panels to recharge the batteries in 8 hours.
I wonder how many EVs are in use around Erie during snow season.
Not many years ago a big snowstorm had traffic stopped for two days at least in I75 north of Atlanta. Semi Drivers were taking people from cars which had run out of fuel into their cabs. A lot more were very cold. How long can an EV heat the interior?

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I wonder if they will start building in generator and fuel tank so you can recharge every 200 miles or so? Or maybe a towable solar array a 10000 lb capacity trailer should hold enough fold out panels to recharge the batteries in 8 hours.
I wonder how many EVs are in use around Erie during snow season.
Not many years ago a big snowstorm had traffic stopped for two days at least in I75 north of Atlanta. Semi Drivers were taking people from cars which had run out of fuel into their cabs. A lot more were very cold. How long can an EV heat the interior?


Depends on the car and the temp you set it at I suppose. We find once the car is at temperature it doesn’t take much to keep it there. It’s a small cabin. My meter usually reads about 500 watts to keep it warm when it’s around minus 12. That includes the heated seats and steering wheel. We set it for 18 C as we usually have warm clothes on in winter. So maybe 12 kw per day. Ish. So something like an Eplus Leaf or Model 3 Tesla has about a 60 to 70 kw battery. Maybe 2 or 3 days depending on where you start etc. Something like a model S Tesla probably 4 or 5 days. An EV pickup truck will have a big a$$ battery so probably a week or more. A semi maybe a month. Like everything else depends on lots of conditions.

Winter in an EV is sooo much nicer than a gas or diesel job. Preheat and defrost using the phone app or departure timers. Always ready, no scraping. Never filling up at a gas station and grabbing a cold pump handle. Always fueled every morning. Nice.

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Reisender wrote:

down home wrote:

I wonder if they will start building in generator and fuel tank so you can recharge every 200 miles or so? Or maybe a towable solar array a 10000 lb capacity trailer should hold enough fold out panels to recharge the batteries in 8 hours.
I wonder how many EVs are in use around Erie during snow season.
Not many years ago a big snowstorm had traffic stopped for two days at least in I75 north of Atlanta. Semi Drivers were taking people from cars which had run out of fuel into their cabs. A lot more were very cold. How long can an EV heat the interior?


Depends on the car and the temp you set it at I suppose. We find once the car is at temperature it doesn’t take much to keep it there. It’s a small cabin. My meter usually reads about 500 watts to keep it warm when it’s around minus 12. That includes the heated seats and steering wheel. We set it for 18 C as we usually have warm clothes on in winter. So maybe 12 kw per day. Ish. So something like an Eplus Leaf or Model 3 Tesla has about a 60 to 70 kw battery. Maybe 2 or 3 days depending on where you start etc. Something like a model S Tesla probably 4 or 5 days. An EV pickup truck will have a big a$$ battery so probably a week or more. A semi maybe a month. Like everything else depends on lots of conditions.

Winter in an EV is sooo much nicer than a gas or diesel job. Preheat and defrost using the phone app or departure timers. Always ready, no scraping. Never filling up at a gas station and grabbing a cold pump handle. Always fueled every morning. Nice.


And no danger in carbon monoxide poisoning when stuck overnight inside your car with engine running for the heater.

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This was couple years back
Sleeping in Tesla Model X in minus 36°

https://youtu.be/capOgUHPz9Q

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