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Edd505

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Posted: 11/13/19 09:13pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Just go F250 lot easier to find than an over priced F150.


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2011-2014 GVWR 8200
2015+ GVWR 7850 (based on 2019 online guide)

The 2015+ trucks are lighter so no real net loss in payload. 

As noted by prior comment these are not very common. I ordered mine. Salesman had no clue about the option. 

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good luck finding a used HDPP F150. those that own one, hang on to them.
i spent 2 years looking for one. had to settle on a 2014 SCREW Ecoboost with Max Tow package. payload capacity of 1828lbs.
but it was in the color i wanted.


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I ordered my 2016 without HDPP after realizing that I couldn't get some other features that I wanted with HDPP. I then added 2,000lb Airlift bags, LT tires and Rancho 9000 shocks. So far I am very satisfied with the results.

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Very unlikely to find a 150 with HD payload, new or used. Almost just have to order, especially to get everything you want.

The Max tow is easier to locate and has a little added payload. The earlier models had the large towing mirrors, with max tow option, making them easy to spot. IMO, 3 choices, order new HD payload, settle for used max tow, or move up to a 250.

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joshuajim wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

joshuajim wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

All HD Payload packages are long bed and have 7 lug axles(versus 6 for the standard F150) in that model year. Because of this the HD's had a special wheel that the regular trucks did not have so they should be easy to spot a mile a way.

The 2015 and up HD F150's have a 6 lug axle. It is only the 2011-2014 that had a 7 lug.


NOPE. My ‘13 HDPP has a 6’-3” bed and 8200# GVWR. Payload is 2592#


Is it a crew cab? If so, then you have the longest bed in that cab configuration just like I did with my 2012 F150HD.


It may be the longest bed in a crew, but it NOT a long bed. That’s 8’.


The longest bed in a configuration is the long bed.

To go off what goducks posted.

F150 cab/bed configurations
Reg cab: short bed 6.5'/long bed 8' bed
Scab: short bed 6.5'/long bed 8' bed
Super Crew: short bed 5.5'/long bed 6.5 bed.

You have to get the long bed option in what ever cab configuration to choose the HD package. So as I said, an F150HD are always a long bed.

It even states this in the Ford brochure for that year model.

2014 F150 Brochure

"Heavy-Duty Payload Package (Regular Cab and
SuperCab with 8' box and SuperCrew with 6½' box;
restrictions apply) increases GVWR to 8,200 lbs. for
improved payload and towing; 17" 7-lug gray styled
steel wheels; LT245/75R17E BSW all-terrain tires;
heavy-duty shock absorbers; upgraded springs and
radiator; auxiliary transmission oil cooler; rear axle
with 9.75" gear set and 3.73 limited-slip gear ratio
"

Now whether you consider a 6.5" bed in a half ton crew cab a long bed is your opinion, but I would wager that many(including the manufacturer) will disagree with you.

* This post was edited 11/14/19 07:23am by ShinerBock *

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"Heavy-Duty Payload Package (Regular Cab and
SuperCab with 8' box and SuperCrew with 6½' box;
restrictions apply) increases GVWR to 8,200 lbs. for
improved payload and towing
; 17" 7-lug gray styled
steel wheels; LT245/75R17E BSW all-terrain tires;
heavy-duty shock absorbers; upgraded springs and
radiator; auxiliary transmission oil cooler; rear axle
with 9.75" gear set and 3.73 limited-slip gear ratio"

The irony for the 2019 model is that HDPP reduces the tow rating since 20" wheels are required for the best rating but unavailable with HDPP. That also makes me wonder about the value of the 9.75" gear set since it reduces GCWR from 18,400lbs to 17,100lbs.

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MFL wrote:

Very unlikely to find a 150 with HD payload, new or used. Almost just have to order, especially to get everything you want.

Jerry


The problem with this is that once you check HDPP about the only choices left are XLT or Lariet, engine and color. Most other boxes are not compatible with HDPP for some reason. I do like adaptive cruise control and don't understand why it is not available with HDPP along with a host of other modern widgets.

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If I needed more than a regular half ton I'd skip straight to a SRW HD truck. To me that's the sweet spot. Same footprint and ease of use as a half ton but much more capable, without all the drawbacks involved when you go to a DRW. That's just my opinion of course.


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Mickeyfan0805 wrote:

We MIGHT end up looking for a 4-5 year old F150 EB next spring. Not sure yet, but it's a possibility. If so, I'd want to have the HD Payload and the Max Trailer packages.

It looks like the integrated brake controller is a giveaway that a vehicle likely has the Max Tow. Is that true? What other ways are there to make sure it has it?

For the HD payload, it looks like a stickered GVWR in the 7k range is the indicator on that one, am I correct?

Thanks all!


Sorry I can't be more help but...
My 2019 SuperCrew w/ 5.5 bed STX and factory basic tow package has the integrated brake controller and 7K# payload package both as options, so those are NOT clues to HDPP or Max Towing package. Also have the trailer backup assist.


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