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cougar28

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So what’s the difference in running a heat pump that a lot of rv’s have today and people using a 1500 watt electric heater? I guess people with the heat pumps is not abusing the system and people using a space heater is?


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Posted: 11/15/19 05:43am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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So what’s the difference in running a heat pump that a lot of rv’s have today and people using a 1500 watt electric heater? I guess people with the heat pumps is not abusing the system and people using a space heater is?


Not at all.
I think that whatever your 30 amp service can provide is justified.
But some seem the think that running another cord from a seperate outlet is OK.... I do not. Some even have gone to the trouble of adding a seperate way to get the power into their 30 amp unit... That in my eyes is theft. Often the park operator will just overlook it, as they do not want a confrontation. It is kind of like shoplifting. Everyone pays for it in the form of higher prices.
50 amp service generally costs more, as the park understands the electricity use will be higher



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For the most part I don’t think the people doing that with a 30 amp service is stealing. I think what there try to do is keep from tripping there 30 amp breaker at times. I know on my old 5th wheel it was a 30 amp. If the a/c was on and say the coffee pot maybe the water heater then someone used the microwave it would trip the breaker unless one was turned off for the time the microwave was used. I think the majority is just trying to prevent that from happening.

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Video I just found: Space Heater Nonsense


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cougar28 wrote:

So what’s the difference in running a heat pump that a lot of rv’s have today and people using a 1500 watt electric heater?


No real difference in my opinion.

Heat Pump upgrade I did last year on my truck camper. It will cook you out of the rig, as long as the outside temp is above 35-38 degrees or so. Below that, the heat pump won't work very well... which is normal for most heat pumps.

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junmy3 wrote:

We use a small 1500W ceramic space heater that is not adequate. Today we looked a Lowes and saw a much larger heater, but is was also only 1500W. So my question is what kind of heater would be better. I know we could use the propane furnace, but prefer to not have to when we have electric hook-ups.

I feel the same way and I do not think I am stealing electricity unless the campground specifically asks or says not to use electric heat. We use a small ceramic heater that we use in conjunction with the propane furnace when needed.
Most campgrounds we have stayed in do not have a price difference for 50 amp vs. 30 amp service. Usually the pedestal has both as well as a 15 amp outlet.
Obviously, if there was a problem, the owners would do something about it.


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What elect. People use to heat is offset by lower pool costs. Running a huge pump all swimming season and added chemicals is expensive. The cooler months the pump runs less if at all and the chemical costs go way down. Just in time for electricity costs to go up. Business owners keep what it costs to operate and charge accordingly.

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cougar28 wrote:

So what’s the difference in running a heat pump that a lot of rv’s have today and people using a 1500 watt electric heater? I guess people with the heat pumps is not abusing the system and people using a space heater is?
Heat pumps generally move twice the BTU per kWh. Although this can vary depending on conditions.

1500w space heater puts 5,200 BTU in the RV.
1500w heat pump puts 10,400+ BTU in the RV.


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I think 1500 is the max but not sure if one with a larger surface actually puts out more heat or not. We like the Vornado which was top rated by Consumer Reports. The fan is always running to keep even heat but an adjustable thermostat varies the heat output. The air is warm and never hot to the touch. Expensive but comes in various models and styles. It heats our 30 foot MH down to possibly 30ish. Some big box stores or on line Once our switch broke so I sent it to the manufacturer and it's been good now for years.


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cougar28 wrote:

So what’s the difference in running a heat pump that a lot of rv’s have today and people using a 1500 watt electric heater? I guess people with the heat pumps is not abusing the system and people using a space heater is?


at least heat pumps are way more efficient that resistance heating. I don't know about RV heat pumps but home heat pumps/AC units typically get 3x or more the heat than resistance heating, With a SEER of 15, you get 15BTU/watt, or aboutt 4x resistance heating.

No this does NOT violate any thermodynamic laws, a heat pump does just that it moves heat from one location to another. (outside to inside or vice versa.)


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