Current crop of SUV'S

[colliehauler]

Why do they call them SUV'S when then vast majority of them are glorified station wagons? To me a SUV is a truck based full frame vehicle. Got to love marketing.

[PA12DRVR]

Isn't "SUV" just marketing lingo that has no real meaning good or bad? I owned an IH Carryall way back in the day; currently have a Toyota Sequoia and have had a Suburban, Wagoneer, Cherokee, Liberty, and Subaru something in between.

Some could tow a lot (nothing compared to my F550...) some not so much, but all of them could be "sporty" depending on the meaning, and all had some utility...so they're all "Sport Utility Vehicles" in my book.

The Sequoia's great for towing the sno-go's or the small ATV and it's great for running around town. The F550's great for towing the flatbed and for plowing snow; not so much for grocery getting. Each vehicle fills a mission slot and if it works, the maker can call it a Blkgovfizit for all I care.

[toedtoes]

JRscooby wrote:
But the higher percentage of smaller vehicles in a given number of vehicles the more room everybody has to miss the impact all together.

That's assuming they maintain the same amount of space as if they were larger vehicles.

The truth is that they will cram more of their little cars into the same space.

The best way to prevent accidents isn't to drive a smaller vehicle. The best way is to maintain a safe distance between you and the vehicle in front of you regardless of size. Stop worrying about keeping that other car from moving into your lane in front of you and you will be a lot safer. Realizing that if you can keep the traffic moving past exits, rather than bottlejamming, by maintaining space to let others move over and exit, you will get to your destination faster and safer than if you block that space between you and the car in front of you.

[Bionic_Man]

JRscooby wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

JRscooby wrote:

IdaD wrote:

A Focus is going to fold up like a beer can if it gets hit by anything significant.

IMHO, safer for everybody, not just you, if everybody drove smallest car the would do the job.

Trying to be nice, so I will just say I don't share your opinion.

Sorry, but sometimes the facts are not nice to hear. The fact is small cars are not more dangerous, large cars are not more dangerous, it is accidents that are dangerous. And after decades of Ralph's influence all are safer.
Now in a impact between a Suburban and a small car, sure the people in the small car are more likely to get hurt, just like impact between Suburban and a Western Star, people in Suburban are in most danger. But the higher percentage of smaller vehicles in a given number of vehicles the more room everybody has to miss the impact all together.
To say "I drive a big car because it is more safe in a wreck" is same as "I'm more important than anybody else" or "Me, me, it's all about me!"

You know what my primary concern is in a crash? Me and my family. I have no problem saying that.

[toedtoes]

Grit dog wrote:

toedtoes wrote:
Just heard. Ford is coming out with an electric Mustang SUV...

Well those are 3 words that certainly don’t go together! Lol

That's what I thought.

Here it is: https://jalopnik.com/2020-ford-mustang-mach-e-heres-the-car-price-and-0-60-1839875945

[Grit_dog]

Your theory is great in a “fair” crash, but momentum usually still trumps engineering

[Grit_dog]

Great theory scooby and yes safety design and equipment is much improved in ALL cars, but the bad accidents I’ve been in say 100% different .
And you would too if you pulled out in front of me with your Prius and I was going 50mph in my mega cab. You’d be just as dead and your car would be just as flat.

[Grit_dog]

toedtoes wrote:
Just heard. Ford is coming out with an electric Mustang SUV...

Well those are 3 words that certainly don’t go together! Lol

[Me_Again]

In the NW and BC Canada waters we who traveled in small yachts always said tonnage wins when it comes to an encounter with a ferry boat, tanker or cargo ship.

[JRscooby]

Bionic Man wrote:

JRscooby wrote:

IdaD wrote:

A Focus is going to fold up like a beer can if it gets hit by anything significant.

IMHO, safer for everybody, not just you, if everybody drove smallest car the would do the job.

Trying to be nice, so I will just say I don't share your opinion.

Sorry, but sometimes the facts are not nice to hear. The fact is small cars are not more dangerous, large cars are not more dangerous, it is accidents that are dangerous. And after decades of Ralph's influence all are safer.
Now in a impact between a Suburban and a small car, sure the people in the small car are more likely to get hurt, just like impact between Suburban and a Western Star, people in Suburban are in most danger. But the higher percentage of smaller vehicles in a given number of vehicles the more room everybody has to miss the impact all together.
To say "I drive a big car because it is more safe in a wreck" is same as "I'm more important than anybody else" or "Me, me, it's all about me!"

[toedtoes]

Just heard. Ford is coming out with an electric Mustang SUV...

[blofgren]

Well, we have 2 SUV's; a 2005 Acura MDX that we have owned for almost 11 years; it is a very comfortable and reliable vehicle and we love it. We have thought about buying something newer but it runs so good and is so trouble free, what for?

Last year we bought a 2001 GMC Yukon from the original owner to pull our boat. It's in great shape and runs fantastic with 266k kms on it. We love it as well and actually took it on a solo road trip a couple of weeks ago for the great room and comfy ride.

Plus they are both much safer than any small car!

[Bionic_Man]

JRscooby wrote:

IdaD wrote:

A Focus is going to fold up like a beer can if it gets hit by anything significant.

IMHO, safer for everybody, not just you, if everybody drove smallest car the would do the job.

Trying to be nice, so I will just say I don't share your opinion.

[toedtoes]

That could be why they didn't do it.

[wilber1]

colliehauler wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

toedtoes wrote:
Last I read it was going to be based on the jeep wrangler.

I don’t really see the point in that,

Shared platform leads to very little cost for research and development. Been done for years with all auto mfgs.

That’s not what I mean’t. I don’t see the point of using the Wrangler because it couldn’t carry or tow any more than the Durango, probably less and it sure wouldn’t be any competition for the Tahoe, Expedition etc.