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LittleBill

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Posted: 11/15/19 10:36am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Mitsu tow 2500+

subby tow 1000+

Cavy tow 1000+

you guys keep thinking you can't tow anything with these, call it what u want, i love my mini-van more than all of them combined.





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Posted: 11/15/19 11:48am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Anything CAN tow and they all have OEM ratings

Heck, a half ton CAN tow the Space Suttle (190,000 lbs)...have seen videos shoeing a VW towing a 747

Pure marketing and lost is how long will it do that, what incline CAN it tow those things. How will they be able to manhandle them in a Mr Murphy moment

Monocoque can be designed to tow heavy and monocoque failures like breaking in half are rare...they will rattle like crazy towards their end of life. Understanding how spot welds fail is key to any discussion of monocoque designs...like a monocoque can be much tirsionally stiffer vs a ladder frame...initially...down the road may be a different story

SUV...CUV...has blurred. OK...the fashion statement crowd typically do not care about details underneath the skin...bells and whistles at the top of their list

Just buy what you like and enjoy your decision...towing has additional metric which should be considered...


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azdryheat wrote:

...We'll never go back to a car.


Us either, but we won't do SUVa eiter. We now have 2 pick-up trucks. I don't think we'll ever own anything else now. We love our 2 pick-ups! One is a grocery getter, the other is a towing beast! Both are 4 door, full crew cab and covers over the bed.

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"when then vast majority of them are glorified station wagon"

Speaking of the Tahoe only, my 2015 had 1595 pounds of payload and a max tow weight of 8400. I don't think that is a "glorified station wagon."


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https://www.autotrader.com/car-shopping/suv-vs-crossover-whats-difference-215843

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When all is said and done does it really matter what marketing classification it's called? Vehicles are like tools. Each one has different capabilities and fits different needs.

Does it work for you? Does it do everything you need it to do? If the answer to both is yes, then why worry about what it's called? Drive it and enjoy it.


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Have a 08 Explorer, 12 F250,17 F350 Anda 18 Navigator, enjoy all of them


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Groover wrote:

colliehauler wrote:

Why do they call them SUV'S when then vast majority of them are glorified station wagons? To me a SUV is a truck based full frame vehicle. Got to love marketing.


Simple-SUV's sell, station wagons don't.

I used to have a Taurus station wagon and loved it but Ford couldn't sell those. Make a similar vehicle with a sexier name and it sells like crazy. Kind of like Chrysler couldn't sell Volare's but put a few hundred dollars worth of bling on it, raised the price $10,000, called it a 5th Avenue then and couldn't make enough of them. It is often about vanity.


Maybe back in the day there were rvnet members sending carrier pigeon messages back and forth you know 1960s email.....saying
"Listen to this marketing [email protected] Wagon? Earl, that's just a carryall with a fancy name and looky there, it don't even have the springs of my pickemup truck. Useless, never will go over!"


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colliehauler wrote:

Why do they call them SUV'S when then vast majority of them are glorified station wagons? To me a SUV is a truck based full frame vehicle. Got to love marketing.


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Back in the 80s, station wagons were losing selling power. Chrysler took a station wagon and raised the roof and bam the minivan was born!

As for the SUV, it used to be a truck to haul people (think suburban and power wagon). They were rugged so "the boys" could go huntin and not have to ride in a truck bed. Jeep, Land Rover, Toyota, etc., all started making a version. Truck to haul people.

In the 80s, the SUV became a more stylish version of a minivan. People liked being able to carry 6-8 people while still having an appearance of being "withit". This was when the modern Jeep Cherokee came into being.

By the late 90s, manufacturers started shrinking the SUV. These are what we really consider crossovers - they only hold 4-5 people and have lower roofs. They are the new station wagon. Mom and Dad up front, 2.5 kids in back, and space for groceries, etc.

By the way, the Durango started as body on frame, then went to unibody, and is now back to body on frame.


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