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otrfun

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Posted: 11/18/19 03:50pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Grit dog wrote:

^ . . . need to understand that options (curb weight) affect it (but not necessarily 100% with respect to how much goes on the rear axle) and understand that a F350 srw truck can be purchased in nearly every increment form 10,000 to 11,500 lb gvwr . . .
I'm aware of how trim-level and options affect curb/empty weight, GVWR, payload, etc. GVWR was 11,500. If it had been 10k, payload would have been 1,880 lbs.

Just find it interesting why a professed payload expanding, lightweight aluminum 2019 F350 CC SB SRW diesel truck with a 11,500 GVWR only has only 3380 lbs. of payload. BTW, the truck was only a mid-trim level (XLT or Lariat).

Our heavy, steel 2016 Ram 3500 SRW CC SB diesel has 3,960 lbs. of payload with no smoking mirrors or special options needed. Hard to believe Ford isn't straight-on competitive with their F350's in terms of payload---without the need to pick just the right options to increase payload.

Anyhow, simple question, but evidently Ford has chosen to complicate the answer.

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Posted: 11/18/19 04:43pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You're right, it should be simple, however, it has often seemed to me like not much is transparent when it comes to truck campers, trucks, and how much they weigh or can carry. I don't think manufactuers will change anything about that unless they have to do so!

Steve

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As people have said here, it’s a marketing more than an actual number, but that’s all we have.


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Posted: 11/18/19 05:26pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It's not just Ford. I went to the Ram website as I'm also considering another Ram. For 2019, just 3500s, the hauling capacity ranges from 3720# (Laramie Longhorn diesel crew cab SRW SB 4x4) to 7680# (Tradesman 6.4 Hemi regular cab DRW LB 4x2). With 358 variations and different hauling capacities. In the 3500 series alone!!


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Thanks again for all the input everyone. I could never have imagined that payload capacity would be such a hard thing to determine!

In my case, however, it seems that a dually is preferred. However, I noticed that srschang alluded to having to deal with snow with a dually. Living in Quebec, snow is a given. Is a DRW problematic in the snow?

Also, on another topic, my driveway has a slope of approximately 8% downwards from house to street. I'm concerned that leveling the camper after removing it from the truck will induce bending in the jack posts as I raise the front legs, which I understand could cause jamming and be problematic for the jacking mechanism, etc. It seems to me that the only way to avoid this would be to build a ramp of some sort for the front wheels to back up onto such that the truck and camper are both more or less level before unloading the camper from the truck. Am I right to be concerned?

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My daully was not worth squat in the snow, Tires just float even in 4x4 running empty bed. There is a reason plow drivers prefer SRW from what I have been told.

Here is a link from a thread in a Ford truck camper forum I participate in. If you scroll down through it you will see a truck camper uploaded on a severe slant and if you scroll further down he explains how he does it. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1422668-lets-see-those-slide-ins-69.html [emoticon] Not simple, but doable.

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Well, I have a Northern Lite 10-2 and a 2018 F350 DRW 6.7 diesel and it is a perfect combination. I certainly would not let DEF fluid stop me from buying a diesel, it's a non issue as long as you buy DEF from your dealer.
Here is a YouTube link that Runaway Roses did of my setup. www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fxr6Oh9YUM&t=52s


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Posted: 11/18/19 07:20pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

srschang wrote:

It's not just Ford. I went to the Ram website as I'm also considering another Ram. For 2019, just 3500s, the hauling capacity ranges from 3720# (Laramie Longhorn diesel crew cab SRW SB 4x4) to 7680# (Tradesman 6.4 Hemi regular cab DRW LB 4x2). With 358 variations and different hauling capacities. In the 3500 series alone!!
Agree, you'll never nail down anything definitive at their websites. My comments/observations are based on looking at door jam stickers on real trucks at various dealerships over the last 6 mo. or so. I've seen a few Longhorn/Limited Ram 3500 CC SB SRW diesels drop down to 3,500 lbs. of payload. Understandable in these top-of-the-line trim levels. The 2019 F350 CC SB SRW diesel with 3,380 lbs. of payload I'm referencing was a mid-trim level (XLT or Lariat). That same F350 truck in a top-of-the-line Platinum/Limited trim level is going to drop the payload down a few hundred more. I'm still convinced Ford must have a way to make these aluminum trucks more payload competitive with some kind of magical option--lol!

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2 Piece wrote:

Well, I have a Northern Lite 10-2 and a 2018 F350 DRW 6.7 diesel and it is a perfect combination. I certainly would not let DEF fluid stop me from buying a diesel, it's a non issue as long as you buy DEF from your dealer.
Here is a YouTube link that Runaway Roses did of my setup. www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fxr6Oh9YUM&t=52s


What a nice rig! The tweaks you’ve made, though seemingly small to the casual observer, reap great changes on comfort and functionality. Great job!

Best,

Bill

* This post was edited 11/19/19 06:07am by Eugarps *

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FWIW,

I checked Ford’s brochure for the 2015 SRW crew cab short bed 156” I’m considering and it has a 4,400# +/- payload. That’s fine for the Bigfoot 9.4SB and Northern Lite 8-11 I’m shopping and the long bed had less capacity. A DRW changes everything.

I’m solo, so shorter is okay for me.

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Bill

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