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If/when electric tow veh become common what do you think the average RV park will charge for a nights stay if they charge $40 per now?
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To be determined...if...when.
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IMO a long range TV capable of pulling an RV is no where in the foreseeable future. It will take some new discoveries in material engineering to come up with a power storage device that would support that. And new discoveries are unpredictable.
But as it is now no RV park could supply power to 50 electric TV being charged.
BTW Elon Musk has apparently claimed that the vaporware Tesla P/U will pull 300,000 pounds!! LOL what sized brakes would that take?
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Possibly the kind of charging stations that you see now, where you pay for a charge. Only one or two per campground, at first. (That's if and when, of course.)
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agesilaus wrote:IMO a long range TV capable of pulling an RV is no where in the foreseeable future. It will take some new discoveries in material engineering to come up with a power storage device that would support that. And new discoveries are unpredictable.
But as it is now no RV park could supply power to 50 electric TV being charged.
BTW Elon Musk has apparently claimed that the vaporware Tesla P/U will pull 300,000 pounds!! LOL what sized brakes would that take?
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bgum wrote:If/when electric tow veh become common what do you think the average RV park will charge for a nights stay if they charge $40 per now? I assume electric vehicles will pay extra.
Flat fee probably not going to work just as it would not work for petrol.
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time2roll wrote:bgum wrote:If/when electric tow veh become common what do you think the average RV park will charge for a nights stay if they charge $40 per now? I assume electric vehicles will pay extra.
Flat fee probably not going to work just as it would not work for petrol. Exactly just like now that some campgrounds offer primitive sites for a cheaper amount or premium sites for extra money it will probably be a option.
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bgum wrote:If/when electric tow veh become common what do you think the average RV park will charge for a nights stay if they charge $40 per now?
I would think an RV park would contract a company like EVGO or Chargepoint to equip a certain number of sites with EVSE's. The park would split the proceeds with the supplier. Currently payments are made with cell phone Apps or RFID cards. I suspect that will be the method of payment in an RV park. Depending on the grid service to the park the charge network company would probably go with a 6.6 KW or 7.7 KW EVSE per site, This is common in car parks and would provide a reasonable overnight partial charge and a full charge in a two day stay, The campground site price itself probably wouldn't change.
I would think we are probably 5 to 10 years away from seeing campgrounds invest in this type of infrastructure. In the meantime EV drivers can share the power from the 50 amp pedastal between the EV and RV using the EVSE that comes with the EV and just setting the charge rate of the truck to a lower amount. 16 or 20 amp or whatever. Pricing will be as per the campground owners rate. This is how we do it right now although the battery in our EV toad is quite small in comparison to what a EV truck would have.
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Reisender wrote:bgum wrote:If/when electric tow veh become common what do you think the average RV park will charge for a nights stay if they charge $40 per now?
I would think an RV park would contract a company like EVGO or Chargepoint to equip a certain number of sites with EVSE's. The park would split the proceeds with the supplier. Currently payments are made with cell phone Apps or RFID cards. I suspect that will be the method of payment in an RV park. Depending on the grid service to the park the charge network company would probably go with a 6.6 KW or 7.7 KW EVSE per site, This is common in car parks and would provide a reasonable overnight partial charge and a full charge in a two day stay, The campground site price itself probably wouldn't change.
I would think we are probably 5 to 10 years away from seeing campgrounds invest in this type of infrastructure. In the meantime EV drivers can share the power from the 50 amp pedastal between the EV and RV using the EVSE that comes with the EV and just setting the charge rate of the truck to a lower amount. 16 or 20 amp or whatever. Pricing will be as per the campground owners rate. This is how we do it right now although the battery in our EV toad is quite small in comparison to what a EV truck would have.
Many rv parks only have 30 amps available for the rvs. Do you really foresee them upgrading their electrical capabilities to accommodate charging large vehicles in 5 to 10 years. One of the major expenses to building a rv park is the electrical services. You are talking a major investment here. Maybe the higher end premium parks might be able to afford it, but Im guessing a lot of regular parks are not going to spend that kind of money any time soon. That is assuming that the grid feeding the park is capable of the upgrade.
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winniman wrote:Reisender wrote:bgum wrote:If/when electric tow veh become common what do you think the average RV park will charge for a nights stay if they charge $40 per now?
I would think an RV park would contract a company like EVGO or Chargepoint to equip a certain number of sites with EVSE's. The park would split the proceeds with the supplier. Currently payments are made with cell phone Apps or RFID cards. I suspect that will be the method of payment in an RV park. Depending on the grid service to the park the charge network company would probably go with a 6.6 KW or 7.7 KW EVSE per site, This is common in car parks and would provide a reasonable overnight partial charge and a full charge in a two day stay, The campground site price itself probably wouldn't change.
I would think we are probably 5 to 10 years away from seeing campgrounds invest in this type of infrastructure. In the meantime EV drivers can share the power from the 50 amp pedastal between the EV and RV using the EVSE that comes with the EV and just setting the charge rate of the truck to a lower amount. 16 or 20 amp or whatever. Pricing will be as per the campground owners rate. This is how we do it right now although the battery in our EV toad is quite small in comparison to what a EV truck would have.
Many rv parks only have 30 amps available for the rvs. Do you really foresee them upgrading their electrical capabilities to accommodate charging large vehicles. One of the major expenses to building a rv park is the electrical services. You are talking a major investment here. Maybe the higher end premium parks might be able to afford it, but Im guessing a lot of regular parks are not going to spend that kind of money any time soon. That is assuming that the grid feeding the park is capable of the upgrade.
Exactly, But it is the service industry. No different than hotels. Those that don't have EV charge facilities will either upgrade or disappear. RV parks don't have to do anything they don't want to. But in 10 years RVers with EV tow vehicles or EV motorhomes are going to be looking for facilities with charge infrastructure. No different than people with 50 amp coaches looking for 50 amp serviced sites.
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