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westernrvparkowner

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Posted: 11/20/19 09:12pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

JRscooby wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:

If you bounced a check, why would the IRS be involved? That is a civil matter between you and whomever you wrote the check to. And the IRS doesn't put liens on vehicles or businesses or even your personal accounts without a long legal process. For a bounced check to result in IRS liens the check would have had to been payment for severely past due taxes and if that was the case, the problem wasn't so much the bounced check but that your taxes were years in arrears. So either a relatively small amount of money ($12,000) completely decimated your business and life for many months to years, or there is much more to the story.


I'm not sure what it matters other than to disparage my character but I will send you a PM
Don't care about any pm. When people claim personal experiences to support their positions and those experiences don't make sense I point out the descepancies. end of story.

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Posted: 11/20/19 11:08pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Wrpvo, you’d do well to observe a bit more and take to heart comments like JAC1982s and others.
It’s one thing to constructively disagree with someone who can defend themselves but your holier than thou persona is beginning to wear thin.


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Posted: 11/21/19 05:11am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Grit dog wrote:

Wrpvo, you’d do well to observe a bit more and take to heart comments like JAC1982s and others.
It’s one thing to constructively disagree with someone who can defend themselves but your holier than thou persona is beginning to wear thin.
Pot calling the kettle black.





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westernrvparkowner wrote:

Don't care about any pm. When people claim personal experiences to support their positions and those experiences don't make sense I point out the descepancies. end of story.


I never claimed any reason for my homelessness other than my drinking. For years, running OTR, I would run hard for weeks without drinking, then take a few days off for a bender when I got home. I was spending more time in motels around the country than in my rented house. I gave up the house just to save the rent. (Does the O/O of a road tractor qualify as homeless any more than a full time RVer?) But the issue I did not foresee was instead of drinking only in home town, I started telling dispatch "When I get this load off I'm going to take a day off." Within a year somebody made a offer on my truck, and I had drinking money for a long time.
It was years latter that I had the problems caused by the bank. And like I have said before, there was enough outlaw left in me for me to get my money back from the guy that defrauded me, but the bank fees, other charges and damage to my name, not so much. Example, before if one of my drivers picked up a nail, pull into one of 4 tire shops, get it fixed, shop owner knew I would stop by with a check. After I had to beg the driver to carry money to fix the tire, because the check might not be good.

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For the good people that are so opposed to giving "free stuff" to the undeserving. Do you ever compare need? Now some members may think I'm aiming at them. So if you think it might sting do not look at your own taxes, check the value of your deductions!
For example, do you think somebody earning a taxable income over $600,000.00 a year needs help from the government to keep a roof over their head?
Same somebody owes $5,000,000 on their house and is paying 2% interest on their home loan. That interest is $100,000 right? That is $100,000 the home owner does not need to pay the 37% tax on. Using the $600 month rent that was thrown at me, that deduction would rent 5 apartments for a year.
Now I know my numbers my be off, and I'm sure the calculations are simplistic. But I bet if you where to plug in your real numbers you will need to force your eyes closed...

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Posted: 11/21/19 09:28am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Now I know my numbers my be off, and I'm sure the calculations are simplistic. But I bet if you where to plug in your real numbers you will need to force your eyes closed...


In California, the hypothetical person you are referencing with $600,000 income would pay approximately 37% federal income tax, and 12% state income tax. That totals almost 50% of income.
This is of course on top of a sales tax approaching 10%, a property tax, and among the highest gasoline tax in the country.
The deductions you suggest will lower the total slightly, but your hypothetical taxpayer will end up paying tens of thousands of dollars in taxes every year.
How much is enough? In 2016, the top 10% of taxpayers paid 70% of all taxes. What is the right number? 90%? 100% ?

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"In 2016, the top 10% of taxpayers paid 70% of all taxes." How much of the overall income percentage did those top 10% corral? Earn huge amounts, pay large amounts of taxes. And how much, percentage-wise, did those top 10% pay in tax compared actual income?


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fj12ryder wrote:

"In 2016, the top 10% of taxpayers paid 70% of all taxes." Actually he exaggerated, it was 69.47%
How much of the overall income percentage did those top 10% corral? 46.56%
Earn huge amounts, pay large amounts of taxes. And how much, percentage-wise, did those top 10% pay in tax compared actual income? 21.19%, as compared to 3.73% for the bottom 50%
The income split point to be in the top 10% is $139,713.00. Which begs the question that was never answered > "What is the right number? 90%? 100% ?"

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Posted: 11/21/19 10:35am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

JRscooby wrote:

For the good people that are so opposed to giving "free stuff" to the undeserving. Do you ever compare need? Now some members may think I'm aiming at them. So if you think it might sting do not look at your own taxes, check the value of your deductions!
For example, do you think somebody earning a taxable income over $600,000.00 a year needs help from the government to keep a roof over their head?
Same somebody owes $5,000,000 on their house and is paying 2% interest on their home loan. That interest is $100,000 right? That is $100,000 the home owner does not need to pay the 37% tax on. Using the $600 month rent that was thrown at me, that deduction would rent 5 apartments for a year.
Now I know my numbers my be off, and I'm sure the calculations are simplistic. But I bet if you where to plug in your real numbers you will need to force your eyes closed...



Why do you think it is taxpayers responsibility to go to work everyday, make responsible decisions in their lives, sacrifice, only to have the government take our money and give "free" stuff to those who do not make the effort?

And minimum wage was never meant to raise a family of 4-6. Those jobs are entry level, learn responsibility, and move up the ladder. People do not think, or wait, to have a family before they can afford it.

That is their decision. Everyone else should not suffer or pay for their decisions they made. Why should we be forced to pay for someone else's family when they should have waited until THEY can afford it? People are free to romp in the sack, just stop making everybody else pay for their night of fun, over and over and over again. This is the most absurd thing I have ever heard of. Get on birth control.

Many people would have larger families but they cannot afford it, and do not want to live off of handouts and off the backs of others. That is called be an adult, responsible, integrity, morals, and live within their means.

Being down on your luck, loss of job, disable, temporary help is one thing. And no one denies giving a hand up in those circumstances.

Generations of living on the dole is another. It is a way of life now in this country with no accountability. Take the free stuff while driving your SUV, nails done, talking on your Apple phone.

Half the country working to pay for the welfare and food stamps and free stuff for the other half is a serious problem and so is this mentality.

People choose to drink, do drugs, have 6 kids...they do it to themselves. No one forces them.

We have our own families, rent, food, and bills to pay. So take our food off our table and money out of our wallets for lifelong takers? No. Trying to save our money, for our future, that I guess, we do not "deserve" only to pay for others?

Opposed to giving free stuff to the "undeserving"??? No one said anybody is "undeserving". They deserve to have education, a job, a safe environment to live. They throw those opportunities away with bad choices. Nothing is free.

We all have the same opportunities in this country. It is your personal responsibility to use them to your advantage or not. Do taxpayers "deserve" to have their paychecks taxed against their will? No they do not.

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Posted: 11/21/19 10:57am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Anyone old enough to remember when it only took one income to buy a house, car, feed the kids and enjoy life?
Now it's pretty much mandatory that there be two incomes. So which came 1st, high prices or two income families?

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