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Posted: 11/18/19 08:01pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Any battery with significantly reduced size, price or weight will change the world.


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profdant139 wrote:

Gasoline stores a lot of energy in a small space and with not too much weight. But it's got some downsides, too.
That is because you are not required to carry an O2 tank or capture the waste products when burning petrol.

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BB_TX wrote:

Ford just introduced their new all electric Mustang with up to 459 HP, depending on model. And a range up to 300 miles on current battery technology. Obviously these manufacturers feel a battery breakthrough is imminent.


Yeah but you get 459hp or 300miles.
- Of course is it really 459hp... or HP equivilent (which really isn't a thing). Cars typically have way more peak HP than they need because low rpm available HP is much lower. Most cars never actually put out the rated peak HP in real life. With electric motors, you get more HP at low rpm, so less need for peak HP to get the same performance.
- 300mile range assumes you drive it like it's got a 4 banger and you are afraid to break it. Use that 459hp and you will be lucky to get 100mile range.

Really you are seeing lots about battery technology, not because a breakthrough is imminent but because it's the key stumbling block to making EVs a viable replacement for ICE.


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The biggest problem is "refueling". You can fill up a gas powered car in a few minutes. It will probably take a few hours to top up a battery powered car.


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time2roll wrote:

Any battery with significantly reduced size, price or weight will change the world.


Yes, and the change will be power plants being built all over the place.





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Lynnmor wrote:

Yes, and the change will be power plants being built all over the place.
This kind of power plants.
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valhalla360 wrote:


- 300mile range assumes you drive it like it's got a 4 banger and you are afraid to break it. Use that 459hp and you will be lucky to get 100mile range..

Acceleration will definitely effect battery life... but speed is what really makes a difference. The electron usage is roughly 4th power quadratic equation of mph.

300 miles at what speed? Something I should know the answer to, but are Tesla and Ford using the same measurement standard like EPA MPG?

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