โNov-19-2019 04:47 PM
โNov-23-2019 01:04 AM
Gdetrailer wrote:richardcoxid wrote:
When repacking the wheel bearings ALWAYS use: DOUBLE LIP SEALS WITH A GARTER SPRING and most of your grease leakage will be elimated!
Most folk do not realize that you MUST TURN the drum while adding grease since they never bothered to read the manuals.
Bet most folks simply plug the grease gun in with the wheels firmly planted to terra firma and never turn the drums.. Have read a lot of posts where someone would state that they "gave it a couple of squirts" each time before camping, bet they never raised a tire..
Turning the drums allows the grease to move through easier which reduces the pressure on the seals.
But as pointed out, why bother with the zerks, if you follow the AXLE manufacturers recommendation of inspecting the brakes and bearings yearly, it makes zero sense to pump grease in! That is just being lazy and taking the "EZ" way out and then whining and complaining when you end up with damaged grease laden brake shoes!
Chances of ever having grease laden brakes are pretty darn low if you pull the drums and hand repack the bearings, over almost 40 years messing with drum brakes (combined with autos and trailer axles) and have never had grease blow out the seals and on my brakes.
Messy, yeah, but that is what gloves are for.
โNov-22-2019 07:42 PM
richardcoxid wrote:
When repacking the wheel bearings ALWAYS use: DOUBLE LIP SEALS WITH A GARTER SPRING and most of your grease leakage will be elimated!
โNov-22-2019 03:15 PM
โNov-21-2019 05:23 PM
Terryallan wrote:There have been reports here in the past (with pics) where the grease hole that feeds the inner bearing had a sharp burr left from machining. This burr would nick a new seal as the drum was installed... Instant seal failure.
Ok. Yes it has Zerk fittings. however I don't think they are the culprit. I have been using TTs with ZERKs for more than 16 years with no problems. This axle was replaced 2 years ago because of a bad hub. the service guy told me it was best just to replace the axle, and as I was having them flipped, and they had to come off anyway. We did.
As per instructions I have always pumped grease into the hubs until grease appears around the center. I did the new ones the same way. One side of the new axle filled, and showed as soon as I started pumping. The other side did not. It took a long time to get grease to show. I just thought as it was new, it wasn't filled at the factory. As I look back. It more than likely had a bad seal from the factory. but since I didn't crawl under the Tt to look, and there was no grease on the cement under the TT. It got past me. And since it is now 2 years old. It is on me. I saw it as soon as I did crawl under the TT. Grease all over the back plate. So it will be done before we go again.
Yes the brakes worked great until the last trip we took this fall. They still worked, still stopped the TT. But just didn't feel right. so I'm taking it to M&M to have it done. This is not the same place that raised the TT.
M&M Trucking is owned, and operated by a friend of mine. He started it from scratch about 15 years ago. It is also a on call road service garage. He is also a camping buddy. The shop has a excellent reputation, and I have more than just a little trust in his work. Knowing him as I do. I know he is as honest as the day is long.
โNov-21-2019 04:01 PM
โNov-21-2019 01:57 PM
ScottG wrote:jfkmk wrote:ScottG wrote:Huntindog wrote:cavie wrote:Not off topic, and no problem with reading comprehension.jfkmk wrote:
Wow, only three posts to get this off topic! Yes, there is a good chance the brakes have been contaminated eith grease. No matter how you try, youll never get all the grease off the brakes. Definitely have them replaced.
Yep. Lots of folks have a problem with reading comprehension. They read things that are just not there. The post was about question brakes shoes. Not Wheel bearings.
The grease on the brakes comes from the wheel bearings.
On axles with EZ lube hubs, this is a common occurance.
Hence my question. If the OP has EZlube hubs, and uses this feature, then that is most likely the reason he is now probably facing a big bill.
True, grease seals can just fail... But it happens a lot more often when using the EZlube feature.
Good info IMO and very helpful post. If I were the OP I would want to know how my brakes got grease on them.
If I was the OP and wanted to know how grease was leaking out of the hub (no one actually concluded the brakes had grease on them yet) i would ask the mechanic working on it instead of an opinion based on conjecture.
Even if I tried, I could not care less what a poster like you would or wouldn't do. You want to berate others responses and argue and are of no real use here and are one of those "people" who don't make this forum a better place.
As long as people's responses are within the forum guidelines and rules, they can post anything they want - whether you think they're on-subject or not.
โNov-21-2019 01:39 PM
JRscooby wrote:
I have no experience with axles that have the zerk. I can see how it would be easy to push grease past a seal, or even push a seal out. After all, a hand grease gun pushing grease is used to tighten the tracks on a loader.
But I have worked on lots of things. Many seals fail because of bad installation. That kind of thing happens shortly after put in service. If it has worked for a while, from a rock crusher to trailer to little bearings on antique motors, if a seal where a shaft spins, or something spins on a shaft, there is a bad bearing. Now did the bad bearing let things wobble ruin the bearing? Or did the escaped lube let the bearing get too dry? No matter, they fail together.
Now when you add the zerk, and grease pumped in the bearings could still be good.
โNov-21-2019 02:52 AM
โNov-20-2019 05:38 PM
jfkmk wrote:ScottG wrote:Huntindog wrote:cavie wrote:Not off topic, and no problem with reading comprehension.jfkmk wrote:
Wow, only three posts to get this off topic! Yes, there is a good chance the brakes have been contaminated eith grease. No matter how you try, youll never get all the grease off the brakes. Definitely have them replaced.
Yep. Lots of folks have a problem with reading comprehension. They read things that are just not there. The post was about question brakes shoes. Not Wheel bearings.
The grease on the brakes comes from the wheel bearings.
On axles with EZ lube hubs, this is a common occurance.
Hence my question. If the OP has EZlube hubs, and uses this feature, then that is most likely the reason he is now probably facing a big bill.
True, grease seals can just fail... But it happens a lot more often when using the EZlube feature.
Good info IMO and very helpful post. If I were the OP I would want to know how my brakes got grease on them.
If I was the OP and wanted to know how grease was leaking out of the hub (no one actually concluded the brakes had grease on them yet) i would ask the mechanic working on it instead of an opinion based on conjecture.
โNov-20-2019 04:38 PM
Huntindog wrote:
True, grease seals can just fail... But it happens a lot more often when using the EZlube feature.
โNov-20-2019 03:31 PM
dieseltruckdriver wrote:Huntindog wrote:cavie wrote:Not off topic, and no problem with reading comprehension.jfkmk wrote:
Wow, only three posts to get this off topic! Yes, there is a good chance the brakes have been contaminated eith grease. No matter how you try, youll never get all the grease off the brakes. Definitely have them replaced.
Yep. Lots of folks have a problem with reading comprehension. They read things that are just not there. The post was about question brakes shoes. Not Wheel bearings.
The grease on the brakes comes from the wheel bearings.
On axles with EZ lube hubs, this is a common occurance.
Hence my question. If the OP has EZlube hubs, and uses this feature, then that is most likely the reason he is now probably facing a big bill.
True, grease seals can just fail... But it happens a lot more often when using the EZlube feature.
Agreed, I was going to post nearly exactly what you just said. If anyone had used the EZ Lube feature that can easily push grease past the seal, so it helps in the future.
โNov-20-2019 03:22 PM
jfkmk wrote:ScottG wrote:Huntindog wrote:cavie wrote:Not off topic, and no problem with reading comprehension.jfkmk wrote:
Wow, only three posts to get this off topic! Yes, there is a good chance the brakes have been contaminated eith grease. No matter how you try, youll never get all the grease off the brakes. Definitely have them replaced.
Yep. Lots of folks have a problem with reading comprehension. They read things that are just not there. The post was about question brakes shoes. Not Wheel bearings.
The grease on the brakes comes from the wheel bearings.
On axles with EZ lube hubs, this is a common occurance.
Hence my question. If the OP has EZlube hubs, and uses this feature, then that is most likely the reason he is now probably facing a big bill.
True, grease seals can just fail... But it happens a lot more often when using the EZlube feature.
Good info IMO and very helpful post. If I were the OP I would want to know how my brakes got grease on them.
If I was the OP and wanted to know how grease was leaking out of the hub (no one actually concluded the brakes had grease on them yet) i would ask the mechanic working on it instead of an opinion based on conjecture.
โNov-20-2019 03:15 PM
Huntindog wrote:cavie wrote:Not off topic, and no problem with reading comprehension.jfkmk wrote:
Wow, only three posts to get this off topic! Yes, there is a good chance the brakes have been contaminated eith grease. No matter how you try, youll never get all the grease off the brakes. Definitely have them replaced.
Yep. Lots of folks have a problem with reading comprehension. They read things that are just not there. The post was about question brakes shoes. Not Wheel bearings.
The grease on the brakes comes from the wheel bearings.
On axles with EZ lube hubs, this is a common occurance.
Hence my question. If the OP has EZlube hubs, and uses this feature, then that is most likely the reason he is now probably facing a big bill.
True, grease seals can just fail... But it happens a lot more often when using the EZlube feature.
โNov-20-2019 03:02 PM
ScottG wrote:Huntindog wrote:cavie wrote:Not off topic, and no problem with reading comprehension.jfkmk wrote:
Wow, only three posts to get this off topic! Yes, there is a good chance the brakes have been contaminated eith grease. No matter how you try, youll never get all the grease off the brakes. Definitely have them replaced.
Yep. Lots of folks have a problem with reading comprehension. They read things that are just not there. The post was about question brakes shoes. Not Wheel bearings.
The grease on the brakes comes from the wheel bearings.
On axles with EZ lube hubs, this is a common occurance.
Hence my question. If the OP has EZlube hubs, and uses this feature, then that is most likely the reason he is now probably facing a big bill.
True, grease seals can just fail... But it happens a lot more often when using the EZlube feature.
Good info IMO and very helpful post. If I were the OP I would want to know how my brakes got grease on them.