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Lwiddis

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Posted: 12/02/19 05:25pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

“Yes I know the 8 and 10 speed transmissions make up for the 3.23 to a certain extent,”

ib516, I’m amazed at the 8 speed transmission and 3.23 vs. my old 2015 Tahoe’s 6 speed and 3.42.


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midnightsadie wrote:

white knuckle drive?? your risking our and your,life every time your on the road.


Oh good gosh...seriously?
This is what I love about this forum. It makes me feel so much better about my self every morning when I realize that there are some people that are so inept that they actually believe drivel like I quoted.
Then I feel sorry that some folks have to go through life so fearful of things they can't or don't understand.


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Posted: 12/02/19 05:57pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

X2 Grit....I've seen this scare tactic posted a number of times on these forums, where towing near capacity/just over is suspected. There are many dangers out on the streets/roads, that are much more likely to kill you than a RVer towing heavy. How about impaired drivers, distracted drivers, drivers with medical issues, and just plain road rage. I will share the road with a slightly overloaded TV/trailer combo, before the others I mentioned.

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Hitch up and go. You’ll know after a few tanks of fuel if it will tow it or not. You’ve already spent the money, go enjoy it. If you find you truck isn’t quite up to the task, get a bigger truck, no big deal.

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To provide some perspective the 9,400 tow rating is for a flatbed with 10% on the tongue, not for travel trailer that has more tongue weight and wind resistance.

Even at 13% of weight on the hitch you will be more than 20% over your receiver hitch rating. If your receiver fractures going over some train tracks it is going to be ugly.

Suspect your suspension will be too soft to handle this well which will lead to porpoising and sway. You have type P tires? I would want LTs for that much weight.


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Posted: 12/02/19 07:33pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ksnider74 wrote:

So, it'll be a white knuckle drive then? I'm just trying to prevent any damage to the truck or trailer.

I use the wifes '16 1500 chevy crew cab short bed 5.3 engine at 355 hp/383 torque with the 6l80E tranny and 3.42 axles to pull my 10k car hauler with 9460 lb on the trailers axles and 3450 lbs on the trucks rear axle. The truck also has a 9400 lb tow rating.

I've towed for a living so I know what white knuckle means to me. This truck is maxed out in pulling performance and load carrying performance but I don't find it a white knuckle experience ....to me anywayz.

IMO you won't like towing that size trailer on a all day road trips in high head wind or areas with lots of steep hills that require 3500-4500 rpm constantly to maintain slow traffic speed.


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ksnider74 wrote:

So like any other new person that's bought a travel trailer I probably have put the cart before the horse. So ultimately the question is can I tow this...
I have a 2019 GMC Sierra Elevation DC 4x4 with the tow package and the L84 engine and a 3.23 gear ratio. The limitations are

9400lb Towing capacity
7000lb gvwr
15000 GCWR
3800 GAWR RR
940 tongue weight

The trailer I bought was a 2020 Venture Sport Trek 322VRL with
1010 dry hitch weight
7580 dry weight
8820 loaded weight

So I know that the owners manual for the truck gives specs and limitations and states any trailer must have a WDH and then shows 50%? So can I tow thing or what?

Thank you all in advance and will appreciate any feedback.


You are well over on the tongue weight limit.

Also check if you aren't over the payload limit. With only a 7000lb GVWR, once you take the curb weight plus hitch weight, you may be out of payload before loading anything in the truck.

I'm also suspicious of the trailer payload. By the numbers there is only around 1200lb CCC in the trailer...you'd be surprised how quickly you can get up above 2000lb of cargo.


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AlmostAnOldGuy wrote:

To provide some perspective the 9,400 tow rating is for a flatbed with 10% on the tongue, not for travel trailer that has more tongue weight and wind resistance.

Even at 13% of weight on the hitch you will be more than 20% over your receiver hitch rating. If your receiver fractures going over some train tracks it is going to be ugly.

Suspect your suspension will be too soft to handle this well which will lead to porpoising and sway. You have type P tires? I would want LTs for that much weight.


And if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump it's ass when it hops....but who cares...
OMG, the onslaught of rvnut ninnies continues.
If you had half a clue what you were talking about, you might be dangerous or you might actually realize that you're wrong and just sit quietly.
What's the hitch rating for a new 1/2 ton GM ? Go find it and then show your math to support your I'll informed , afraid of your own shadow claim.
While you're at it, tell the class about all the fractured hitch receivers you've experienced or seen that support your paranoia. Only thing fractured is your thought process.
I will agree LT tires are a nice upgrade, albeit also not a mandatory necessity. Google what wdhs do for rear axle weights while you're researching cracked trailer hitches.
Oh and the 75000 miles on my current 1/2 ton work truck and it's P rated tires and pixy sticks hitch receiver haven't seemed to get your memo about fracturing or blowing up or swaying. But maybe the pintle hook on the 26' tag trailer I tow around sometimes is easier on those components....lol.
Or maybe the dozens of other 1/2 ton trucks that I and millions of trucks others have actually been using as real work trucks that tow heavy stuff are anomalies and they should fall apart and run off the road.
Kinda sorry for the rant, but not really....

* This post was edited 12/03/19 01:32am by Grit dog *

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To the OP, no one is suggestion that you have the ultimate tow vehicle. But rather, it's adequate.
The person who brought up all the other dangers on the road and that a nice new pickemup towing around its rated capacity with a conscientious driver being far less of a worry is spot on.
Some people live their lives afraid to leave the safety of their own house (not quite literally) and others actually experience or gain experience that males them more confident.

OP, you pulled it home didn't ya? Was it white knuckle, bumper draggin, trailer swayin terror, or did you just drive carefully, watch your mirrors and beam with pride at your new setup in the mirrors? Betting the latter, unless you actually are apprehensive about pulling it off the lot.

Besides all the rv geezers tow at 50-60 mph anyway so you can smell the roses and brag about your unrealistic fuel mileage, don't they?
I'd tow the OPs trailer at 55 mph with my 20 year old Tahoe!

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Posted: 12/03/19 04:59am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Can you tow it? Yes.... Should you tow it? That is where the arguing comes in...


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