New suburban and tahoe reveal! Duramax 3.0 is in!!

[MARK_VANDERBENT]

Wow these are awesome! Duramax 3.0 is option and I'm so excited !

[Fisherman]

4x4ord wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

Grodyman wrote:

That's what I think as well. Seems like people are affording a whole lot more now than I could a generation ago.

It's not that people can afford them, their debt load just increases exponentially. For every $100 income, they spend around $170. People don't care or understand.

[6door74]

MARK VANDERBENT wrote:
Being a huge 6.5 diesel suburban fan, I just have to have one!
Seems all the reviews of the baby inline duramax are very positive in alot if areas.
Dang I thought they could not make the new SUVs any more attractive than the 15 to 19 Denali!
They just did , and I can't wait to see yukon and escalade

Here ya go!

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a30517344/2021-gmc-yukon-xl-photos-info/

[JRscooby]

4x4ord wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

Grodyman wrote:
Who can afford these anymore?

They seem to sell more and more every year.

That's what I think as well. Seems like people are affording a whole lot more now than I could a generation ago.

Heard a story on a newscast I have some faith in that auto loans are the home loans where a while back...

[Grit_dog]

4x4ord wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

Grodyman wrote:
Who can afford these anymore?

They seem to sell more and more every year.

That's what I think as well. Seems like people are affording a whole lot more now than I could a generation ago.

If you guys break it down, vehicles don't cost, proportionally, more or much more than they used to.
A big part of what you're seeing is the cost of "upgrades" either for capability or comfort.
Pick a vehicle, most any vehicle, but one that can be had in multiple trim levels and powertrain configurations.
Then compare the, whatever, 1970s 80s or 90s cost for similar capability (HP, tow rating, whatever) and similar creature comforts (AC, power windows, AT, cruise etc).
You'll be comparing a big block, high trim level 1980s model to a base v6/low end drivetrain and base model trim on a new or newer vehicle.
In some cases, the new one might be cheaper with the time value or money or inflation.
Now add the cost of 400+ hp, Nav, heated and cooled 8 way leather, BLIS and other active and passive avoidance, reduced maintenance intervals and a host of other things.
What you'll find, is the average person, once accuatomed to those amenities, believes they should not cost anything.
Like your cell phone. Aside from the software compatibility and processor speed, how many bitsch about how much the I phone 11 costs compared to the IPhone 4 or 6? Same difference.
Are you the one that complains about how much an instapot costs compared to your old crock pot that will make the same pot of chili? Crock pots are cheaper than ever, you're paying for the convienence and technology to make chili in 30 minutes or less.

Of course the baby Dmax SUV will be expensive. If you want cheap, buy the govt special V6 or turbo 4 model (likely not offered becasue people don't want the "base model" in what has become a luxury SUV) with an old 6 speed and 1/2 the fuel mileage and only 60% of the torq

[4x4ord]

Bionic Man wrote:

Grodyman wrote:
Who can afford these anymore?

They seem to sell more and more every year.

That's what I think as well. Seems like people are affording a whole lot more now than I could a generation ago.

[jerem0621]

I’m pretty excited about these new SUV’s.

Grocery getter or not, it still very capable. My grocery getter Tahoe hauled large appliances the other day. Super handy. With the seats out and down I have the storage capacity of a standard pickup. 3 minutes later I am ready to haul 8 people. Will all the seat anchors I do not want for tie down locations. The only negative thing is that hauling tall things that are not able to be laid down like a fridge would require a trailer.

These new ones will be even better with the lower floor.

IRS is no big deal. It will still have a decent capacity and will tow a decent load. It will handle even better than they handle now.

The Diesel is exciting but I would probably choose the 5.3l again.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

[PDX_Zs]

Still waiting for 8-lugs. Still loving my 2012 3/4 ton....

Suspicious on the IRS. Would have preferred a solid axle with coil springs. But understand it freed up significant interior room.

Will be surprised if actual production ride-height on the ZR version is that high.

Styling, interior, pricing, increased overhangs.... it's almost like someone inside is trying to sabotage every GM project. So much good, and yet...

[Bionic_Man]

Grodyman wrote:
Who can afford these anymore?

They seem to sell more and more every year.

[colliehauler]

Grodyman wrote:
Who can afford these anymore?

It's not just the exorbitant cost of the vehicle. You have to add in taxes and insurance to the mix. I can purchase a lot of fuel for that kind of money.

[kw_00]

Grodyman wrote:
Who can afford these anymore?

I know right! My goal is not to live in debt and so far it’s working... it would take a while for me personally to save up, which I will do for th next truck. I think prices today are just to much, then the initial depreciation hit is not worth it for me. I will just save and pay cash for used in a few years. Daughters in school right now and has plans for college in years to come.... so nothing new coming my way...lol

[Grodyman]

Who can afford these anymore?

[blofgren]

I agree, I like the diesel option but I'm certainly not liking the nose on it. I'll wait to see what the Yukon looks like.

We've been thinking of buying a new or nearly new Yukon, but it certainly won't be anything that looks like this.....

[kw_00]

Win for the diesel option for sure, otherwise GM stole that grill right from Toyota and Lexus... take a look at those vehicles and you can see the resemblance. Not to excited about the push button controls for a shifter. But I don’t plan to purchase one so not concerned. What I am watching is how that Diesel engine will hold up. Down the road, I see myself getting another 1/2 ton, most likely it will be the GMC version with the diesel. I really prefer the gas LS 6.2, however with the mpgs that diesel is getting, a 4x4, 4 door with that engine will fit the bill.

[colliehauler]

Gawd that front end is awful. Does GM have a contest for engineers to see who can come up with the ugliest design?