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davisenvy

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Posted: 12/15/19 05:56am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I pulled the plastic cover off the engine to verify that there is a transmission cooler and I am wired for OEM brake controller. I know the engine will pull it, I know the trans will hunt, but I wasn't sure about the coil vs leaf springs.


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I didn’t mean hunt like hunt for gears. Yes it will do a bunch more shifting than running bobtail, but the 8hp70 is about the best slushbox out there.


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Posted: 12/16/19 05:52am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

davisenvy wrote:

I pulled the plastic cover off the engine to verify that there is a transmission cooler and I am wired for OEM brake controller. I know the engine will pull it, I know the trans will hunt, but I wasn't sure about the coil vs leaf springs.

The rear coil spring makes for the best unloaded ride in a 150/1500 series truck, but they do tend to sag when trailering. There are companies that make stiffer replacement springs (TufTruckSprings.com) that slip right in, and of course there are Timbrens and air bag kits are available among many other options.

Basically, if you hauling near max payload in a Ram 1500 newer than 2009 (when they introduced the rear coils), you are likely to need some rear suspension add-ons.

I had a 2500 with the rear coils and found them to be very robust and not prone to sagging like the 1500s. The 2014 2500 I had with rear coils sagged less than the 2007 3500 SRW I had owned previously - and I tested and measured it with the same RV.


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I think all the Rams have the basic towing components (cooling, etc.) installed. I played on the "build your Ram" site, and the only extra towing stuff is the mirrors, cameras and brake controller.


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Posted: 12/16/19 08:51am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Maybe RAM does it differently, but are Tow-Haul button, IBC, software (mainly duty cycle, anti-hunting algorithms, etc) there ?


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jerem0621 wrote:

MFL wrote:

I'm not familiar with Ram 1/2 tons, but even with the taller gearing, I'd expect more than 7,800 lbs towing, from a 5.7 hemi with 8-speed?? Payload 1200 lbs???...think my wife's little SUV (Escape) has a similar payload, and is the loaded Limited Edition.

If Grit says it will work, I'd go for it!!

Jerry


Yea, I balk at that all day long.

1200 lbs in that Ram and you will hardly notice the load. 1200 lbs in the escape and you will know you are loaded heavy.

My lightbulb moment came when I commented on here about a 3/4 ton MegaCab 4x4 Cummins only having 1800 lbs of payload. Someone commented that 1800 lbs in the bed wouldn’t even make it squat, despite what the silly sticker says.

Just my opinion based on experience.

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This might be for another thread, but here it goes. I went from an '06 Duramax with a payload of 2200 lbs to a 2016 Cummins with a 2000 lb payload. I towed the same fifth wheel with both and the Ram (with the lower payload) towed much more stable than the Duramax. I know the numbers are given for a reason, but why are Rams numbers so low?

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It is due to the vehicle weight. The payload is the wt of the vehicle, as it left the factory, subtracted from that vehicles GVWR.

Example: Ram weighed 8k as built. The GVWR is 10K, making the payload sticker number 2K

Axle/tire ratings much more important!

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Once you get the "toy" in the trailer, and depending on how the trailer is laid out with the location and amount of fresh water and so forth it, the hitch weight may be reduced somewhat depending also on how heavy the toy is. With a WDH, I dont see it being overly painful. Probably the biggest issue is you relating to how your previous trucks pulled compared to the 1500. My guess is you will, without even realizing it start pursing lots for a bigger truck. Had this been your first encounter with a TV, you wouldnt know what you were missing.


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