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MFL

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Posted: 12/13/19 02:26pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm not familiar with Ram 1/2 tons, but even with the taller gearing, I'd expect more than 7,800 lbs towing, from a 5.7 hemi with 8-speed?? Payload 1200 lbs???...think my wife's little SUV (Escape) has a similar payload, and is the loaded Limited Edition.

If Grit says it will work, I'd go for it!!

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The struggle is the rear axle capacity and the passenger rated tires and rims on the 1500. If you can keep within those, the engine and transmission will do fine for that weight. Expect the tongue weight to be 15-17 percent of the gross trailer weight rating in real life, so take some weights and record some ratings and see where you end up.


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Posted: 12/13/19 03:06pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Bedlam wrote:

The struggle is the rear axle capacity and the passenger rated tires and rims on the 1500. If you can keep within those, the engine and transmission will do fine for that weight. Expect the tongue weight to be 15-17 percent of the gross trailer weight rating in real life, so take some weights and record some ratings and see where you end up.
Yep! Your rear axle capacity should be 3900 lbs, which should give you quite a bit of cushion over that meager payload capacity. Your factory hitch should be rated about 1100 lbs. Even those paltry P rated tires, if aired to max, should be more than enough for the max axle rating. Ram 1500s are softly sprung, so if you don't have air ride, you will get some sag, but it doesn't mean your truck is straining. Just the nature of the beast.


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As mentioned - a lot of opinions will come flooding along on both sides. Since you don't own the trailer, the best thing you can do is calculate with as true a sense of numbers as you can. As others have said, your major limitation is payload. In addition to considering the question of who/what else will be in the truck, the nature of the TH is key. The dry hitch weight is at about 14%. Where is the cargo area? If it's in front of the axles, your proportional TW will spike when loaded. If it's behind the axles, the TW ratio will actually drop (note that I said TW ratio, not the actual TW!).

All in all, without a lot more info, it's hard to judge. At first glance, my sense would be that, if the cargo is behind the axles, you MIGHT be able to swing it if you are generally driving with a pretty empty truck and what you put in cargo is pretty light. If the cargo is over or in front of the axles, it is likely a non-starter!

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Try to find your actual tow rating because I *think* your 3.21 diff is very telling and indicates you don't have any tow package. So no extra trans or PS coolers, etc.


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MFL wrote:

I'm not familiar with Ram 1/2 tons, but even with the taller gearing, I'd expect more than 7,800 lbs towing, from a 5.7 hemi with 8-speed?? Payload 1200 lbs???...think my wife's little SUV (Escape) has a similar payload, and is the loaded Limited Edition.

If Grit says it will work, I'd go for it!!

Jerry


Yea, I balk at that all day long.

1200 lbs in that Ram and you will hardly notice the load. 1200 lbs in the escape and you will know you are loaded heavy.

My lightbulb moment came when I commented on here about a 3/4 ton MegaCab 4x4 Cummins only having 1800 lbs of payload. Someone commented that 1800 lbs in the bed wouldn’t even make it squat, despite what the silly sticker says.

Just my opinion based on experience.

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No need for name calling, Grit dog. I don’t call you “a foolish overloader” do I? We just disagree.


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^ Yup, you're right jerem! You get it. Others.....not so much.

Well I was wrong about this being a runaway thread. Weight cops are either sleeping or pontificating more than driveling.


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ScottG wrote:

Try to find your actual tow rating because I *think* your 3.21 diff is very telling and indicates you don't have any tow package. So no extra trans or PS coolers, etc.


1500 Hemi CC 3.21 geared truck is rated between 7800-8000lb towing.
So, dog will hunt. No problem.

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