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rbpru

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Posted: 12/16/19 09:35pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My truck was backed into the TT dealer's shop. The truck and TT were both level. The hitch ball was set 1 inch above the TT socket. The TT was set on the ball and the bar links adjusted so the TT was 1 inch nose down and the truck 1 inch nose up as compared to level.

As the TT load varies from trip to trip and the components age, I try to keep the bar chain links adjusted to give the same TT nose down,truck nose up.

A bit more TT nose down, really does not seem to affect anything over the past 40.000 miles.


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I cranked the chains back to #4 from 5 after a 250 mile drive yesterday. The TV is now pretty much level, the trailer seems level too but I have not had it on solid ground level ground since I am in the mountains
I prefered the 4 links over the 5. Next week I am going to a dealer on the coast to look at another brand of WB and such, maybe just the square bars vs the bars and chain.

I know it is very windy today, the trailer is moving the Suburban around a bit. I had it all weighed also, 7200 Suburban and 4900 trailer.

I might drop the hitch down one more notch but leave the bars alone.

But first...COFFEE! Gotta love free Shorepower--!

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BarneyS wrote:

You should not try to level the trailer with the spring bars. You level the trailer by moving the hitch head up or down on the draw bar or shank. The spring bars should be tightened just enough to return the lost weight from the front axle of the truck when you put the trailer tongue on the ball.

I suggest you take a long look at this thread, which is stuck at the top of the Towing forum, for help on setting up your hitch correctly.
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RustyMacIntosh wrote:

I cranked the chains back to #4 from 5 after a 250 mile drive yesterday. The TV is now pretty much level, the trailer seems level too but I have not had it on solid ground level ground since I am in the mountains
I prefered the 4 links over the 5. Next week I am going to a dealer on the coast to look at another brand of WB and such, maybe just the square bars vs the bars and chain.

I know it is very windy today, the trailer is moving the Suburban around a bit. I had it all weighed also, 7200 Suburban and 4900 trailer.

I might drop the hitch down one more notch but leave the bars alone.

But first...COFFEE! Gotta love free Shorepower--!


I may have missed it in the thread somewhere, but what is your anti-sway devise? Is it a friction bar or integrated into your hitch/WD-set up? Thinking if it's Harbor Freight it won't be integrated. If you get moved by wind, it should move both your vehicles as one if it moves you at all. Trailer that small, tow rig that large you should have no sway and really side winds should do nearly nothing other that let you know they're there. I say this 'cause I've robbed this train...............
I pulled a 25' Nomad bunkhouse rig all over the western US with 1999 1/2 ton 4x4 suburban with 5.7 and factory tow package. Never any sway at all, using a Draw-Tite 1000 pound set up with a friction sway control.

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Posted: 12/17/19 09:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I agree with Vintage.

The TV and TT are level.
The TT hitch is set on the ball. My dealer prefers a 1" high ball preload.
The combination sags at the hitch.
The bar links are adjusted to bring the TV and TT back to level, or a tad nose down.

I have a Blue Ox and it was worked great even through hard stops and emergency swerve.

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im in a very windy area right now, Fraser Park heading west to 166 then up to Monterey (chkin on rentals in Toro and SB). The wind is fierce. Gusts. When I get to Santa Maria I am going to swap the hitch unit from this EZ Lift, and get a better friction brake, this HB is not quality,

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RustyMacIntosh wrote:

......snip....
"When I get a chance I am going to weigh the whole setup just for curiosity's sake."
...snip....


You will get better advice after you provide those numbers. Until then, it just a guessing game. I know people like to tell other people what to do without much information. Not me.

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My recommendation is to stay away from Chinese stuff and imported knock offs in general. I pulled a 30’ rig over the grapevine on highway 5 using a blue ox and it worked perfectly. No sway. No bounce. Good unit.

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Swapped the EZ Lift knockoff with a Reese unit in Santa Maria. Rather than the bars and chains, this unit is a square straight bar from the hitch to the tongue of the trailer. First few miles heading NB on 101 I noticed less porpoising of the Suburban. I still feel trucks and larger vehicles as they come up behind me. Heading down to Santa Barb the wind was blowing pretty hard there near the rest areas. It all seems very stable.

Getting back to SLO then up to Big Sur then into Carmel, rather than to go over to 68 I went up Carmel Valley then took Los Laureles grade over to over to Laguna Seca where I have rental property to check on. I sorta like this setup better than the chains and bars. My old unit was creaking and groaning a whole lot lately, probably that friction brake from HB. It went into the junk bin at the dealer in Santa Maria,.

Even though I have a MH 34f given to me by my adopted kid, this Mallard is what I used extensively. While in Santa Maria--- Vintage, I spec'd out a 20 ft Fleetwood generic with slide-outs on both sides. While the trailer stays under 22ft, those slideouts are cool. My Mallard is old school heavy. This was a fiberglass and aluminum built. Then I wandered over to look at Airstreams.....I ah, wandered back to my Suburban....

Who knows I might retire the Mallard. I'll wave to you when I come by 156 transitioning to 101 NB. I cruized down NMain past the old high school. How this town has changed in 40 years...

but gotta love those rent checks!

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