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โDec-27-2019 06:11 PM
97chevor wrote:
I think this is more state regulations than fuel station choice. Personally, traveling across the country I have encountered regen problems from buying fuel in western states. I think it is not only the high amount of bio but what the bio is made from.
โDec-27-2019 03:40 PM
Mike Poorman wrote:I spent years working at Gm dealerships. I can assure you that most people working there don't know squat. Call GM Customer Service if you want the correct answer.theoldwizard1 wrote:starlord wrote:
...NOT supposed to run any bio of any percentage in the system (or so Ford tells me).
Never Ford diesels are certified for up B20.
Just checked the manual for my 2019 GMC Sierra 3500 HD and that
on page 47 of the 2019 Duramax Diesel Supplement they state
"Do not use a diesel blend containing more than 20% biodiesel by volume"
So it appears that B20 is acceptable.
I will stop by my local GMC dealer and check with a real person to make sure that the truck can actually run on B20 with out issues.
โDec-27-2019 02:58 PM
theoldwizard1 wrote:starlord wrote:
...NOT supposed to run any bio of any percentage in the system (or so Ford tells me).
Never Ford diesels are certified for up B20.
โDec-24-2019 04:40 PM
โDec-24-2019 03:46 PM
down home wrote:Yep, thanks for reminding me of that one. We pay our taxes so they can subsidize the alcohol industry and sell you a less efficient fuel, give you less mileage, and make you think you're "saving the environment" On the last issue, If the brewer's grain (What's left after the alcohol is distilled) can't be disposed of very closely to the alcohol plant, there is a net cost that has to be added to the cost of production, which it seldom, if ever, is shown. Another way the government hides the cost of alcohol is by generous carbon credits that can sold to other high pollution producing industries. So not only are alcohol producers getting direct tax advantages, the drivers are subsidizing other high pollution industries. So much for environmentally friendly fuel. Politics at it's worst.pigman1 wrote:
You get a double hit when using the B20. As mentioned, you're paying for a less expensive fuel that the dealer sells at the more expensive price, and then you get the second hit where your fuel mileage drops because there's less BTU's (energy) in a gallon of B20 than in a gallon of straight #2 diesel. 139,000BTU in #2 diesel vs 126,700BTU in a B20 diesel. Welcome to the "how do we screw the consumer again?" game.
Don't forget we subsidize BioDiesel production with our taxes
โDec-22-2019 07:29 PM
โDec-22-2019 05:05 PM
pigman1 wrote:
You get a double hit when using the B20. As mentioned, you're paying for a less expensive fuel that the dealer sells at the more expensive price, and then you get the second hit where your fuel mileage drops because there's less BTU's (energy) in a gallon of B20 than in a gallon of straight #2 diesel. 139,000BTU in #2 diesel vs 126,700BTU in a B20 diesel. Welcome to the "how do we screw the consumer again?" game.
โDec-22-2019 12:32 PM
starlord wrote:
...NOT supposed to run any bio of any percentage in the system (or so Ford tells me).
โDec-22-2019 07:46 AM
MDKMDK wrote:gemsworld wrote:
Thanks for posting the list. As I suspected, all but one of the stations in CA now sell B20. In AZ, only 3 stations show B5 and the rest don't say the type of diesel being sold.
No problem.
You know you can use up to B20 in the MB V6 as long as you keep an eye on the oil level, and some owners have said they shorten the oil/fuel filter and oil change intervals.
MB lays it out in the OM under (go figure) "B20 fuels with bio-diesel content" fuel.
In my 2017 Sprinter manual it's a short blerb on/near page 275.
"B20 fuels with bio-diesel content
! Continuous use of B20 fuel can lead to fuel
filter clogging and injector deposits. This can
cause engine performance degradation.
Injector deposits can cause the engine oil
level to rise due to unburned fuel washing into
the oil pan. This can cause engine mechanical
damage.
To avoid damages and performance degradation:
- Fill up with ULSD (B5 or less) whenever
possible.
- Regularly monitor your engine oil level if
you use B20 fuel on a regular basis.
- Strictly follow the oil change intervals quoted
in the instrument cluster and within
your maintenance booklet.
- Use only engine oils and filters approved for
use in your vehicle.
- If you do not plan to drive your vehicle for
several weeks, fill your vehicleโs fuel tank in
advance with ULSD fuel.
For more information, consult the gas station
staff. The fatty acid methyl ester B5 or B20 label
on the fuel pump must clearly state that the
standard for ULSD is complied with. If the marking
does not make this clear, do not refuel from
that pump.
Do not refuel with any fuels that have not been
approved for your vehicle.
For more information about refueling
(> page 125)."
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