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mich800

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Posted: 01/04/20 09:46am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

FishOnOne wrote:

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ib516, the early Hemis were solid and reliable. The issues arose when they went to the variable cam system around 2009 which is the Hemis in question.


I think the issues are more about the cylinder deactivation process more than the cam phaser.


Yes and GM has had similar issues. From what I have read they are sensitive to oil change intervals and quality. If you stay on top of your oil changes they don't seem to have the issues.

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mich800 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

ib516, the early Hemis were solid and reliable. The issues arose when they went to the variable cam system around 2009 which is the Hemis in question.


I think the issues are more about the cylinder deactivation process more than the cam phaser.


Yes and GM has had similar issues. From what I have read they are sensitive to oil change intervals and quality. If you stay on top of your oil changes they don't seem to have the issues.


Agreed... That advice was already given to a thin skinned member here.


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5 Star reported at FTE today that they could have run the 7.3 truck in 7th gear and made for power but the truck would have hit the speed limiter have way through the WOT run.

They also reported some good towing performance towing 9,500-10,000. They were impressed with the low torque performance and the 10 speed transmission.

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FishOnOne wrote:

5 Star reported at FTE today that they could have run the 7.3 truck in 7th gear and made for power but the truck would have hit the speed limiter have way through the WOT run.

They also reported some good towing performance towing 9,500-10,000. They were impressed with the low torque performance and the 10 speed transmission.


I didn't see that but that is weird. 7th is 1:1 in the ten speed. I would think that is the gear they would have used.

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mich800 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

ib516, the early Hemis were solid and reliable. The issues arose when they went to the variable cam system around 2009 which is the Hemis in question.


I think the issues are more about the cylinder deactivation process more than the cam phaser.


Yes and GM has had similar issues. From what I have read they are sensitive to oil change intervals and quality. If you stay on top of your oil changes they don't seem to have the issues.


FWIW a good friend of mine that is a GM tech told me it's imperative to change my Silverado 5.3 by the time the OLM reaches 30% to avoid any problems.


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goducks10 wrote:

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The 7.3L gas option is $1705, and the 6.7L diesel option is $10,495.

That gets my attention.

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x2 and the fact that right now diesel at one station near us is .60 more than gas.
$2.69 vs $3.29.


Gas / diesel price differential depends where you live. Here in S AZ, diesel is currently 17 cents LESS than gas, and a week ago when I filled up, was 24 cents less. Sometimes gas is less than diesel here, but in the last couple years, I find diesel to be less than gas most of the time.

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crcr wrote:

goducks10 wrote:

NRALIFR wrote:

The 7.3L gas option is $1705, and the 6.7L diesel option is $10,495.

That gets my attention.

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x2 and the fact that right now diesel at one station near us is .60 more than gas.
$2.69 vs $3.29.


Gas / diesel price differential depends where you live. Here in S AZ, diesel is currently 17 cents LESS than gas, and a week ago when I filled up, was 24 cents less. Sometimes gas is less than diesel here, but in the last couple years, I find diesel to be less than gas most of the time.


crcr where in AZ are you? I’m in Tucson and diesel is 50 cents more than regular gas at most every station.

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the1adman wrote:

crcr wrote:

goducks10 wrote:

NRALIFR wrote:

The 7.3L gas option is $1705, and the 6.7L diesel option is $10,495.

That gets my attention.

[emoticon][emoticon]


x2 and the fact that right now diesel at one station near us is .60 more than gas.
$2.69 vs $3.29.


Gas / diesel price differential depends where you live. Here in S AZ, diesel is currently 17 cents LESS than gas, and a week ago when I filled up, was 24 cents less. Sometimes gas is less than diesel here, but in the last couple years, I find diesel to be less than gas most of the time.


crcr where in AZ are you? I’m in Tucson and diesel is 50 cents more than regular gas at most every station.


Phoenix.

That's interesting that the differential is reversed from Phoenix to Tucson. I wonder why that is?? I wouldn't have a clue. But as I said, I find that often the last couple of years, diesel has been less than gasoline here. I paid $2.549 for diesel on 12/31. Gas was about a quarter more. This is at Costco (one Costco here has diesel, and so does a Sam's Club near us, so we always fill up at Costco or Sam's).

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Phoenix.

That's interesting that the differential is reversed from Phoenix to Tucson. I wonder why that is?? I wouldn't have a clue. But as I said, I find that often the last couple of years, diesel has been less than gasoline here. I paid $2.549 for diesel on 12/31. Gas was about a quarter more. This is at Costco (one Costco here has diesel, and so does a Sam's Club near us, so we always fill up at Costco or Sam's).


The difference in diesel fuel prices between the two cities is probably because Phoenix has a diesel storage facility, but Tucson does not so they are paying the additional costs for it to be transported. There are less diesel storage facilities than gasoline so regional price differences may vary wildly depending on how far you are from the closest diesel storage facility. There may be a gasoline storage facilities in an area, but the diesel facility is in the next city over because it does not have enough demand to have one.

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Speaking of added cost. I think all states in the US should restructure their fuel tax system. The reason why diesel is taxed higher than gasoline is because it is mainly used on medium and heavy duty commercial truck applications where there are hardly any gas engines used. This is not the case anymore because there are more and more gas engines being used in medium duty commercial truck applications.

In my opinion, they should dye the diesel and gasoline fuel similar to how they do with non-tax diesel. Anyone using both gas or diesel for commercial use should pay the higher tax rate. They can dye this fuel a certain color similar to how the dye non-tax farm fuel red. Anyone not using gasoline or diesel for commercial purposes should not have any color and pay the same lower tax.

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