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deltabravo

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Posted: 12/29/19 09:39pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

timmac wrote:

Also my boat extends 2 feet beyond the end of boat trailer, where does the length end at trailer or boat over hang.


Length ends at the end of the object you towing - the boat.... or more correctly, the motor on the boat.


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Posted: 12/30/19 07:44am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You'll likely be fine unless you crash, or someone runs in to you, that's when they'll pull out the tape measure. Your insurance will still pay up to your policy limits, because insurance covers negligence/ignorance on the part of the insured, but I personally would not chance it.


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So length requirments must be different for commericial than RV's. Some of the trailers are 51' and I know those tractors have to be longer than 14'


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hotpepperkid wrote:

So length requirments must be different for commericial than RV's. Some of the trailers are 51' and I know those tractors have to be longer than 14'

That is correct, except commercial vehicle trailers are often 53 ft long. Separate statutes. That's is why people get all screwed up when they read or hear of a law and don't know the difference between commercial vehicles and recreational vehicle statutes. It's done on this forum all the time. You see people talk about the Federal Motor Carrier laws and make some claim like they think they know what they're talking about. When you read someone spouting off about FMCS laws as pertaining to recreational vehicles you should immediately page on down. Those people don't have a clue what they're talking about.


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Wadcutter wrote:

hotpepperkid wrote:

So length requirments must be different for commericial than RV's. Some of the trailers are 51' and I know those tractors have to be longer than 14'

That is correct, except commercial vehicle trailers are often 53 ft long. Separate statutes. That's is why people get all screwed up when they read or hear of a law and don't know the difference between commercial vehicles and recreational vehicle statutes. It's done on this forum all the time. You see people talk about the Federal Motor Carrier laws and make some claim like they think they know what they're talking about. When you read someone spouting off about FMCS laws as pertaining to recreational vehicles you should immediately page on down. Those people don't have a clue what they're talking about.


CMVs, the trailer is limited to 53ft. Most states no longer set a limit for over-all length on tractor/semi trailer combinations. Some do limit other units, even other CMVs for length. I paid a fine in Iowa for one of my truck/trailer combinations. And have heard of hot-shot hands in trouble with GN and pickup.

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Just because you haven't been caught yet does not make it legal. Some considerations:
1. Know what states don't allow it before entering that state.
2. What happens if you are stopped? Ticket or make you disengage the extra trailer???? Some states may well make you drop the offending trailer. What then?
3. Have you checked to see what your insurance carrier has to say about illegally towing if you wreak.
You may "flout" a law, but eventually it will come back to bite you. Those states not allowing double RV towing do have their reasons. It is not up to you to decide, it is their right to dictate their standards to drivers within their jurisdiction.
By the way: I don't know of a state NOT allowing double towing that will allow you to tow double there because your state allows it.
My biggest concern is that your insurance company may well refuse to cover a collision because you are towing illegally in a state prohibiting double tows.


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Leeblev wrote:


My biggest concern is that your insurance company may well refuse to cover a collision because you are towing illegally in a state prohibiting double tows.


Insurance covers (among other things) negligence, ignorance, and stupidity on the part of the insured. If it didn't, half of all claims would probably be denied.

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Update on my triple towing.

I shorten my boat tongue by 3 feet, move boat forward on trailer 6 inches, removed my drop hitch receiver on motorhome and my total length from boat motor to front of motorhome is 70 foot right on the head, exact not a inch over, I am now legal in Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota and Colorado, and all these states connect together with Nevada.

7 states I can travel with my boat/truck behind motorhome.

I also have a 2nd camera now on the truck to watch the boat from the motorhome.

As to law about the middle being a 5th wheel go look at link and see what it reads, no requirement in these 7 states.

Here is the link to all state laws on triple towing, see you on the road..

https://www.rvia.org/system/files/media/file/Maximum%20RV%20Length.pdf


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Only CO and ND allow 4 vehicle combination for towing triples according to the clicky link. It would be interesting how ND and CO lists the trailer types (first to last)....like a truck pulling a semi trailer/trailer/trailer for example.

A 4 vehicle combination is towing triples (three traiers).
A 3 vehicle combination is towing doubles. (two trailers)
And of course a 2 vehicle combination is tow vehicle pulling one trailer.

I bring this up because when asking your state size and weight folks a question on towing combinations we need to give them the correct info the way DOT laws are written on combinations.

Like the clicky says;
**Chart is not intended as legal advice and does not provide all regulations on the subject. Direct specific questions to your legal counsel. RVIA
assumes no responsibility for any inaccuracies or omissions.**

Which is good advise as what RVIA has listed for my state (Oklahoma) isn't being enforced at this time. Terms used such as a Suburban pulling a 5th wheel trailer and only a 3/4 ton or more can be used to tow combinations. Oklahoma DOT folks have said the Suburban/Vans pulling a 5th wheel trailer is too vague. And of course there is no way a officer can determine what a 3/4 ton vehicle is.
Call as I did and find out the skinny on combination towing in your state...or those you will be traveling through.


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I did pull up each state on the states website and it appears I am legal to go in these 7 states, however vague is in the laws that is for sure.

Some states straight up say the middle trailer needs to be a 5th wheel but not the states in my list.

What saved me was my boat trailer tougne was long, so I now have my boat 16 inches from back of truck and can still turn very tight and also made a hitch extension for it if needed for shallow water launching.

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