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I’m struggling to find a toyhauler that will work with my 3/4ton truck for weigh capacity on the hitch and still provide enough garage space for my ATV’s. So I’m considering to go with double towing. I’m not worried about handling the two trailers (grew up on a farm towing trailers all the time), and I’ve read about how all the state laws are double towing are different, but I like the idea of having a trailer for my ATV’s so I can just grab that trailer and going riding ATV’s whenever I want, and I like the idea of my fifth wheel being shorter/smaller/lighter for when I just want to go camping. I’m in Colorado, and appear to be surrounded by States that allow double towing up to 65’+, so if I stay at 65’ I should be okay.

What am I not thinking of that would making double towing a dumb idea?

Does anyone know what Fifth Wheel MFG’s provide their trailers with hitches already installed and what kind of capacity I could pull behind them? I’ve noticed some of them call the hitch out specifically on their website (without capacity) and others don’t call them out at all.


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Your two reasons are good ones...”grab” whichever one you want. If you are willing to stay out of the states where you are too long or not allowed, do it.


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My 2020 Grand Design Reflection has a factory hitch rated at 3000 pounds.


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I like the way my 5th wheel handles with my motorcycle trailer in tow. I also have a lift I can put on the back of my 5ver. It depends where I am going whether I take my bike on the motorcycle lift or trailer. Almost always I prefer the lift so I don't have to deal with the second trailer once I arrive at my destination.


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Stick to the double tow!


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Whats it like when you just take the ATVs out? If its a couple adult men you dont need much. If taking the family and maybe younger girls you might wish you had the bathroom if out riding for the whole day.

Also how many quads you have in there would effect my choice. If the toyhauler is packed full and you can barely grab something from the fridge then a separate trailer for the toys would be ideal. I often just have a couple dirt bikes so my toyhauler is livable even with the bikes strapped down in the back.

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You could also rethink the idea and get a motorhome toyhauler, to put your toys and friends/family in, and then tow whatever else you want ( subject to weight/length limits ). Four down vehicle, flatbed trailer, pickup. But if you already have truck, 5ver then this might be a too expensive (undesirable) alternative. Just a thought.


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My factory installed hitch is very stout, but only rated for 300 lbs hitch wt, and 3000 lbs towing. In reality, the hitch could likely handle double that, but thinking that FW suspension/tires may be reason for low rating.

Hauling several ATVs on a trailer built to handle 3-4 is going to be much more tongue wt, than those of us double towing motorcycles. Even 2 ATVs, with one close to tongue is going to be a lot of hitch wt.

Maybe trade the ATVs for some dirt bikes, which IMO, would be more fun anyway. With the bikes, you could go either way, double tow, or smaller toy hauler.

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Our Winnebago 5th wheel came standard with a 300 lb hitch weight/3,000 lb towing capacity hitch as part of the frame. We pull the boat with it. (70" length limit in our state.) We would recommend putting in a rear observation camera. It has been very helpful to be able to see the boat (and the surrounding traffic...) back there when we are traveling.

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dkuntz wrote:

I’m struggling to find a toyhauler that will work with my 3/4ton truck for weigh capacity on the hitch and still provide enough garage space for my ATV’s. So I’m considering to go with double towing. I’m not worried about handling the two trailers (grew up on a farm towing trailers all the time), and I’ve read about how all the state laws are double towing are different, but I like the idea of having a trailer for my ATV’s so I can just grab that trailer and going riding ATV’s whenever I want, and I like the idea of my fifth wheel being shorter/smaller/lighter for when I just want to go camping. I’m in Colorado, and appear to be surrounded by States that allow double towing up to 65’+, so if I stay at 65’ I should be okay.

What am I not thinking of that would making double towing a dumb idea?

Does anyone know what Fifth Wheel MFG’s provide their trailers with hitches already installed and what kind of capacity I could pull behind them? I’ve noticed some of them call the hitch out specifically on their website (without capacity) and others don’t call them out at all.


Don't forget that THs are built nose-heavy so when you load your toys up, you'll counterbalance a lot of the weight, especially if you load right to the ramp. I know one guy that loads his 2 quads in his TH and stand them on their tails, just inside the ramp, to get as much weight on the rear end as possible. May not be the smartest thing to do, but it's been working for him for several years. Like you, he's got a 2500 and can't afford to get into another truck.

That being said, most factory installed hitches are 3000/300 capacity, so if your trailer, quads and other stuff gross out <= 3k, then you should be good to go...provided it's =legal= to double-up in whatever state you want to go to. Most states seem to have a grey area here, and most LEOs in those states don't know for sure, either. Some people just go and hope they don't get caught.

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