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wa8yxm

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Posted: 01/07/20 04:36pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Yes and YES. I ran that way from about 2008 till about a month ago. Then I forgot to lower it one day and put on a Sensar IV (With Wingman built in) That too turned out to be an "UPGRADE"

But the wingman by itself is well worth the cost.. There were additional issues with my older Batwing that may have contributed to the difference between a III+Wingman and an IV. in theory there should not be that much difference.

But when I added the wingman I noticed a big difference in range.


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Posted: 01/07/20 04:39pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'll add my "yes" to all those above. Makes the antenna just about the best you can get. Only takes about a minute not counting climbing up on the roof.[emoticon]
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I would do the whole thing. Doing so you will get a chance to clean up all the connections. If you don't and you have one corroded connector you will gain very little.


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Posted: 01/07/20 05:21pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Make sure that you have room for it, RV manufactures can't read the directions that tells them to allow 10" of clearance.





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Yes, I could not use the Wingman sticking out, so I went with a Jack. I am getting good long range with that, no complaints, but haven't tried the Wingman to compare ranges.

I started with an OEM batwing and eventually, the amplifier in it died (hence the Jack on the Winegard mast), so I agree if you are going to add a Wingman to an older batwing, don't do that. Get all-new.

EDIT--now that I have played with putting the Jack on and off, I think you can just put the batwing with Wingman on the other way around so the Wingman sticks out the other side. Not sure. I am not going out in the dark and rain to see if that is so, but pretty sure.

* This post was edited 01/07/20 07:22pm by BFL13 *


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I've got plenty of room for the Wingman


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The Wingman is a definite plus for UHF reception, although the current FCC mandated channel repack has a number of stations moving down to both VHF high and low channels where the batwing already shines.

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Posted: 01/07/20 08:16pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Throw the bat wing away and get a jack. The wing gets caught in wind and will break the mount.


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BFL13 wrote:

EDIT--now that I have played with putting the Jack on and off, I think you can just put the batwing with Wingman on the other way around so the Wingman sticks out the other side.
The Batwing can not be turned around.

When I installed my Batwing there was no room to stow it to the rear so I mounted it so it stows to the side. It has been this way for 9 years and have had no problems.

The Winegard Sensar IV aka Batwing is considered the best RV antenna. It has the best VHF performance of the lot. About 25% of US TV stations are now broadcasting on the VHF band. Because of its small size the Jack does a poor job of receiving VHF. Here's a link to an extensive test that SCVJeff did a few years ago:

https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/27171026.cfm

The Sensar Pro is a great improvement over the basic wall plate but is not required. It has an adjustable amplifier that can give you 10 db more gain and also has a display for signal level which allows you to find the best direction for the antenna.


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Posted: 01/08/20 05:40am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BFL13 wrote:

Yes, I could not use the Wingman sticking out, so I went with a Jack. I am getting good long range with that, no complaints, but haven't tried the Wingman to compare ranges.

I started with an OEM batwing and eventually, the amplifier in it died (hence the Jack on the Winegard mast), so I agree if you are going to add a Wingman to an older batwing, don't do that. Get all-new.

EDIT--now that I have played with putting the Jack on and off, I think you can just put the batwing with Wingman on the other way around so the Wingman sticks out the other side. Not sure. I am not going out in the dark and rain to see if that is so, but pretty sure.


There is only one way the Wingman will work. You can't turn it (or the Batwing) the other way.


What I post is my 2 cents and nothing more. Please don't read anything into my post that's not there. If you disagree, that's OK.
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