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memtb

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Posted: 01/08/20 07:16pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

NJRVer wrote:

memtb wrote:

The Rams were famous for this issue. We have 140 K miles on our Ram, and it showed “zero” evidence of front end issues......never even have done a front end alignment! Then, 2 1/2 weeks ago .....we experienced a tie-rod separation! Thankfully, we were going very slowly on a snow covered dirt road, and we weren’t towing our 20K pound 5th wheel.....only a utility trailer with our Polaris Ranger onboard! It’s a bit unnerving when you have absolutely “zero” control of your rig!

I said all of that, to say all of this..... “get a good mechanic to do an inspection of your truck! memtb



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NJRVer, Yes it did, and was inspected! Unless there has been something of recent, we weren’t aware of. Ours was inspected quite a few years ago! memtb


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I had a 05 Super Duty and drove it to around 180k miles and with a couple sets of BF Goodrich AT tires and a couple sets of KO tires I never had a death wobble incident. My current 12 Super Duty experienced the death wobble twice in close proximity of each other that occurred at the end of life on BF Goodrich AT second generation tires at around ~80k miles. Once I replaced those tires I never had a death wobble incident and I'm currently at ~180k miles. Still have the original steering dampener and all suspension components and alignment are still original except the shocks.


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FishOnOne wrote:

I had a 05 Super Duty and drove it to around 180k miles and with a couple sets of BF Goodrich AT tires and a couple sets of KO tires I never had a death wobble incident. My current 12 Super Duty experienced the death wobble twice in close proximity of each other that occurred at the end of life on BF Goodrich AT second generation tires at around ~80k miles. Once I replaced those tires I never had a death wobble incident and I'm currently at ~180k miles. Still have the original steering dampener and all suspension components and alignment are still original except the shocks.


BFG's are the one of the big causes of DW in Dodge/Ram trucks as well. Much more so than any other tire.


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ScottG wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

I had a 05 Super Duty and drove it to around 180k miles and with a couple sets of BF Goodrich AT tires and a couple sets of KO tires I never had a death wobble incident. My current 12 Super Duty experienced the death wobble twice in close proximity of each other that occurred at the end of life on BF Goodrich AT second generation tires at around ~80k miles. Once I replaced those tires I never had a death wobble incident and I'm currently at ~180k miles. Still have the original steering dampener and all suspension components and alignment are still original except the shocks.


BFG's are the one of the big causes of DW in Dodge/Ram trucks as well. Much more so than any other tire.


Scott, is this the same guy that is always bashing RAM about death wobble?


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Posted: 01/09/20 07:29am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ScottG wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

I had a 05 Super Duty and drove it to around 180k miles and with a couple sets of BF Goodrich AT tires and a couple sets of KO tires I never had a death wobble incident. My current 12 Super Duty experienced the death wobble twice in close proximity of each other that occurred at the end of life on BF Goodrich AT second generation tires at around ~80k miles. Once I replaced those tires I never had a death wobble incident and I'm currently at ~180k miles. Still have the original steering dampener and all suspension components and alignment are still original except the shocks.


BFG's are the one of the big causes of DW in Dodge/Ram trucks as well. Much more so than any other tire.


The last tires I had on my truck were KO2s and I never had any DW issues with them, but they wore really poorly so I am trying something else now. I'm at about 60,000 miles currently.


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Me Again wrote:

ScottG wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

I had a 05 Super Duty and drove it to around 180k miles and with a couple sets of BF Goodrich AT tires and a couple sets of KO tires I never had a death wobble incident. My current 12 Super Duty experienced the death wobble twice in close proximity of each other that occurred at the end of life on BF Goodrich AT second generation tires at around ~80k miles. Once I replaced those tires I never had a death wobble incident and I'm currently at ~180k miles. Still have the original steering dampener and all suspension components and alignment are still original except the shocks.


BFG's are the one of the big causes of DW in Dodge/Ram trucks as well. Much more so than any other tire.


Scott, is this the same guy that is always bashing RAM about death wobble?


Not sure who that is (I've probably blocked him..) but the tire matter is common discussion on the TDR. When someone reports DW, that's the first question that rings out; Do you have BFG AT's?. Surely part of the problem is the squishy LR D sidewalls of those tires. OTOH, there seems to be no end to the number of parts that can cause it.

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Me Again wrote:

ScottG wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

I had a 05 Super Duty and drove it to around 180k miles and with a couple sets of BF Goodrich AT tires and a couple sets of KO tires I never had a death wobble incident. My current 12 Super Duty experienced the death wobble twice in close proximity of each other that occurred at the end of life on BF Goodrich AT second generation tires at around ~80k miles. Once I replaced those tires I never had a death wobble incident and I'm currently at ~180k miles. Still have the original steering dampener and all suspension components and alignment are still original except the shocks.


BFG's are the one of the big causes of DW in Dodge/Ram trucks as well. Much more so than any other tire.


Scott, is this the same guy that is always bashing RAM about death wobble?


Yes sir - thats him.

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Any solid axle 4x4 can death wobble. If it didn't do it when new, something is worn out or out of adjustment. So many people struggle with this instead of just replacing the parts and moving on.

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We were experiencing the death wobble in this 2-ton Hino.

A set of new front tires cured it.


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twodownzero wrote:

Any solid axle 4x4 can death wobble. If it didn't do it when new, something is worn out or out of adjustment. So many people struggle with this instead of just replacing the parts and moving on.


180k miles on a OEM steering stabilizer? On my FX4 the factory Rancho was shot way before that. Replaced it and all the related front end gear and have never had an issue with mine with over a quarter million miles. As a note even the good aftermark parts don't last more than 100k miles with these truck even if hiway driven. When one part goes just replace everything, you're going to do it eventually anyway.


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