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Bob Vaughn

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Posted: 01/18/20 03:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Saw this new brand at the Tampa RV Super show........Damm what an improvement over the major name brands....

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Has been discussed in several other threads:

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The response from several members has been to not be too hasty to drink the Kool-Aid...


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My wife and I went to the Tampa show. We spent 5 hours there and I bet we didn't see 1/3 of the RV's. I didn't think the prices were very good on most. 22%-27% off MSRP but not one sales person would say the price was the "Out the door" price which leads me to believe they would be adding Freight, Prep, PDI fees or a combination of those things.

I also was a little shocked with the Grand Design offerings. For all the wonderful things you hear about them, the materials really aren't any different than in any other RV. I guess it's their customer support that's better but they've been owned by Winnebago for a few years now. I wonder if it's still stellar.


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They are being touted as a Luxury Full Time RV. From the photos, videos and plans and specs on Face Book and their site, I do not consider them either Full Time or Luxury.

They appear to be putting large windows and few overhead cabinets. As a full time RVer, I value my cabinet space.

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Luxury would include a rear cap! I would put them right there with the Solitude by GD. Close but no cigar.


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Me Again wrote:

Luxury would include a rear cap! I would put them right there with the Solitude by GD. Close but no cigar.


X2... they do look nice, just not luxury nice


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Me Again wrote:

Luxury would include a rear cap! I would put them right there with the Solitude by GD. Close but no cigar.


Owning a Grand Design Solitude I can confirm it is far from Luxury, built the same with the same cheap parts as most everything else. Although its advertised as "full time ready" or something I would not want to full time in it.

I suspect the OP was looking at one off prototypes built taking more care and time than units that will be built on a line by pieceworkers. I also suspect Alliance will be more of the same old mass produced, slapped together and shoved out the door product based on the owners background, just like the folks that started Grand Design had done. Get it off the ground, build up a base using creative marketing then sell out. That is Alliance's intent IMO. Time will tell.

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GDS-3950BH wrote:

Me Again wrote:

Luxury would include a rear cap! I would put them right there with the Solitude by GD. Close but no cigar.


Owning a Grand Design Solitude I can confirm it is far from Luxury, built the same with the same cheap parts as most everything else. Although its advertised as "full time ready" or something I would not want to full time in it.

I suspect the OP was looking at one off prototypes built taking more care and time than units that will be built on a line by pieceworkers. I also suspect Alliance will be more of the same old mass produced, slapped together and shoved out the door product based on the owners background, just like the folks that started Grand Design had done. Get it off the ground, build up a base using creative marketing then sell out. That is Alliance's intent IMO. Time will tell.


I totally agree. Why do the creators of Alliance RV think they will earn buyers trust when they have come from companies riddled with complaints.
While I have no intentions of getting rid of by 2014, I still closely follow the market. I do not see one thing done differently or special about Alliance.


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pcm1959 wrote:

GDS-3950BH wrote:

Me Again wrote:

Luxury would include a rear cap! I would put them right there with the Solitude by GD. Close but no cigar.


Owning a Grand Design Solitude I can confirm it is far from Luxury, built the same with the same cheap parts as most everything else. Although its advertised as "full time ready" or something I would not want to full time in it.

I suspect the OP was looking at one off prototypes built taking more care and time than units that will be built on a line by pieceworkers. I also suspect Alliance will be more of the same old mass produced, slapped together and shoved out the door product based on the owners background, just like the folks that started Grand Design had done. Get it off the ground, build up a base using creative marketing then sell out. That is Alliance's intent IMO. Time will tell.


I totally agree. Why do the creators of Alliance RV think they will earn buyers trust when they have come from companies riddled with complaints.
While I have no intentions of getting rid of by 2014, I still closely follow the market. I do not see one thing done differently or special about Alliance.

Pcm, not trying to deviate from the subject, but I see in your signature you have a Lifestyle. I recently watched a couple of short YouTube videos of Lifestyle fivers and they seem impressive. Are they as good as they look?
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JK, I think they are very well built. Its a carry-over from Carriage with some improvements. They built their own frames, are hung wall construction and fit and finish is excellent. I ordered this one and it will be 6 years old in March. I invested over $6k in the RV Flex Armor maintenance free forever roof knowing I plan to keep this rig. It's never been in the shop from day one. This is the first year we have NOT attended the Tampa RV Super Show. We have gone for years just for fun and always walked away feeling good about our LS fiver. Yes, there will always be trends in interiors, etc., but I want a solid foundation.

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