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colliehauler

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Posted: 01/21/20 03:52pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Groover wrote:

colliehauler wrote:

The new cruise being tested will not have a steering wheel or pedals for the gas and brake.

I just don't think I would be comfortable in such a vehicle. For me it would be the lack of being in control.


Did you teach your kids to drive? How was that experience?
No kids to teach. I did take my niece out driving when she got her learners permit several decades ago. She did very well.

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Posted: 01/21/20 04:03pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

bob213 wrote:

Cruise
Video script says coming in 2019. I don't see this on the GM website.
Maybe next year?


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Posted: 01/21/20 04:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

They may have gotten the numbers transposed and meant to say 2091.


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2oldman wrote:

When the highway death toll drops to insignificant numbers, when tailgating and road rage are a thing of the past, when speeding doesn't exist, you will wish this happened sooner.


That sounds like a world that does not exist. As long as there is a "RAT RACE" those things will not go away...

But it does sound like a nice place ! [emoticon]


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When the last time you controlled an airplane or train? Fear of the future won’t stop it.


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2oldman wrote:

Human drivers kill thousands every year, but we somehow live with that.

We'll all be dead before this technology really takes hold, so it doesn't matter.


All part of human nature. Yes, human error kills tens of thousands per year, but if self driving cars malfunction and kill 100 per year they will be branded unsafe. Case in point- a software problem with the 737 Max caused two crashes, killing around 350 people. Despite transporting 6.5 million passengers safely in one year, the aircraft is grounded indefinitely.

For some reason we find it acceptable for human error to cause accidents and kill people, but unacceptable for a tech malfunction to cause accidents, even at a much lower rate.

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rjstractor wrote:

2oldman wrote:

Human drivers kill thousands every year, but we somehow live with that.

We'll all be dead before this technology really takes hold, so it doesn't matter.


All part of human nature. Yes, human error kills tens of thousands per year, but if self driving cars malfunction and kill 100 per year they will be branded unsafe. Case in point- a software problem with the 737 Max caused two crashes, killing around 350 people. Despite transporting 6.5 million passengers safely in one year, the aircraft is grounded indefinitely.

For some reason we find it acceptable for human error to cause accidents and kill people, but unacceptable for a tech malfunction to cause accidents, even at a much lower rate.



The plane was great until some $9 per hour software was implemented. That's when the problems started and killed a bunch of people. There was no problem with the plane or the pilots. It was the software that caused this accident. And they found more problems with the software today after they were going to release the planes for service. Boeing finds more bogus software in 737 max X.

Who is to say that the same poorly written software for cars won't kill 100,000 per year? Are you willing to play Russian roulette with your family with poorly written $9 / hour software?

Here is what poorly written software will do. Notice that the brake lights were on from A to Z. If you watch the video on this you will notice the car sure does not slow down much if at all.

I'm just glad this was not my 12 year old daughter. [emoticon]


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Posted: 01/21/20 07:06pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The customer has become the beta tester. It's a rush to bring the product to market before the competition.

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colliehauler wrote:

The customer has become the beta tester. It's a rush to bring the product to market before the competition.
Where do you buy this Cruise vehicle?

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Self driving is already here. From the TESLA website:

Full Self-Driving Capability

Navigate on Autopilot: automatic driving from highway on-ramp to off-ramp including interchanges and overtaking slower cars.
Auto Lane Change: automatic lane changes while driving on the highway.
Autopark: both parallel and perpendicular spaces.
Summon: your parked car will come find you anywhere in a parking lot. Really.

Coming later this year: Recognize and respond to traffic lights and stop signs.
Automatic driving on city streets.


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