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FishOnOne wrote:

Also I don't believe there's any braking performance benefits of a DRW vs a SRW truck. Perhaps a slight advantage of a DRW additional wheels to dissipate heat from the rear brakes.
Hmm, I would think the additional friction material on the ground, i.e. 6 tires instead of 4, would offer more than just a slight advantage. I'm referring to better braking while towing.


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fj12ryder wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Also I don't believe there's any braking performance benefits of a DRW vs a SRW truck. Perhaps a slight advantage of a DRW additional wheels to dissipate heat from the rear brakes.
Hmm, I would think the additional friction material on the ground, i.e. 6 tires instead of 4, would offer more than just a slight advantage. I'm referring to better braking while towing.

More rubber on the ground is a significant, noticeable advantage.


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And we ALL realize, if you stay under 25MPH, you can go 150% of the sidewall ratings! Yes it is in the fine print. On the other hand, if you go over 65-70 mph, you need to deduct the rating on the side of the tires a certain %.....

So with this said....... Follow all ratings, but make sure that you are also under the weight limit the local LEO/CVEO will also be enforcing. Some rigs, have a higher manufacture rating, than what the local law enforcement agency will allow on the road.

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I bought a 16k gvwr toyhauler back in 2010. I wasn't planning on buying one, but it was a very good deal. I had a CC 4wd 2005 F250 at the time with airbags. It pulled our old 10k 5'er very well. On the drive home with the toyhauler I knew I had to buy a dually. It was white knuckle driving. Turns out that 16k 5'er had a 3700 lb pin weight. I bought a DRW F350, and it was so much more stable. I eventually bought a 2018 F450. It pulls so good you could forget that you're towing. Last year we bought a 20k gvwr toyhauler, and I couldn't feel a difference in towing it vs the older one. The F450 is easier to maneuver than the old SRW short bed.


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Lantley wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Also I don't believe there's any braking performance benefits of a DRW vs a SRW truck. Perhaps a slight advantage of a DRW additional wheels to dissipate heat from the rear brakes.
Hmm, I would think the additional friction material on the ground, i.e. 6 tires instead of 4, would offer more than just a slight advantage. I'm referring to better braking while towing.

More rubber on the ground is a significant, noticeable advantage.


Fish is right, until you exceed the tractive capabilities of the tires and pavement. But who’s to say “half” the ground pressure x twice the surface area won’t yield the same results? Depends on many other factors
Lantley, by your analysis, duallies have worse braking performance since front brakes do more work than reads and front tires on a dually have a smaller contact patch.

Another ad nauseum thread down the drain.......whooosh!


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I look at this way. DRW are specialized towing rigs. SRW works for everything. DRW trucks are always for sale. You decide.

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ppine wrote:

I look at this way. DRW are specialized towing rigs. SRW works for everything. DRW trucks are always for sale. You decide.


“Always for sale”.

Bizarre statement!


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

ppine wrote:

I look at this way. DRW are specialized towing rigs. SRW works for everything. DRW trucks are always for sale. You decide.


“Always for sale”.

Bizarre statement!


I agree, needed to travel 300 miles to find a good used one, not a lot near me!


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rhagfo wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

ppine wrote:

I look at this way. DRW are specialized towing rigs. SRW works for everything. DRW trucks are always for sale. You decide.


“Always for sale”.

Bizarre statement!


I agree, needed to travel 300 miles to find a good used one, not a lot near me!


You should have stopped by for a beer. You were that close!

Maybe he will expand on his comment.

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Grit dog wrote:

Lantley wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Also I don't believe there's any braking performance benefits of a DRW vs a SRW truck. Perhaps a slight advantage of a DRW additional wheels to dissipate heat from the rear brakes.
Hmm, I would think the additional friction material on the ground, i.e. 6 tires instead of 4, would offer more than just a slight advantage. I'm referring to better braking while towing.

More rubber on the ground is a significant, noticeable advantage.


Fish is right, until you exceed the tractive capabilities of the tires and pavement. But who’s to say “half” the ground pressure x twice the surface area won’t yield the same results? Depends on many other factors
Lantley, by your analysis, duallies have worse braking performance since front brakes do more work than reads and front tires on a dually have a smaller contact patch.

Another ad nauseum thread down the drain.......whooosh!

Your making it too complicated. Doesn't involve front brakes. Both SRW and DRW have front brakes.
The larger surface area of the dually tires creates more friction against the pavement.
The whole ground pressure thing doesn't come into play unless you're talking snow and ice. On dry pavement both tires make solid contact with the road
Consider the truck brakes are designed to stop the truck within its the GCWR. A DRW will always have a higher GCWR vs. its SRW counterpart.
MY DRW truck exhibits noticeably more braking power vs. my SRW trucks.

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