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JIMNLIN

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Posted: 02/12/20 12:48pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Apparently you know your Fords pretty good. My rear axle is rated at 6084. How would I go about finding out if this truck was equipped with the camper package or anything like that?
Also why would you calculate the weight of the axle itself into the payload? The axle weight is resting on the ground not the suspension. That one doesn't make sense to me.

Actually up until a couple of years ago Fleet Ford had all their trucks weight spec available from 1999 up to current years on a website. Great for anyone interested in actual mechanical specs for Fords trucks from F150 up to F550s.
Now all I can find in specs from 2014 to present. However that 6084 rawr numbers was used by GM and Dodge for years. So it sticks in your mind.

I'm not a Ford guru but we do have some on the website that are. Especially on the truck camper forum. Those guys haul 3k-6k truck campers ...many with the Fords.

You might check with a Ford truck dealer commercial side.

Or Ford diesel truck websites like FTE (Ford Truck Enthusiast)... a great source for a tech question about a Ford truck.
I'm sure we have Ford truck owners here who may help so stand by.

Weights are measured at the tire/ground interface...just the way it works.
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I have a 2002 F250 CC 4X4 SD 7.3 (bought new)and shows my tow capacity conventional @ 12,500 and 5th wheel @ 12,800. Are you sure you look at the weight # correct. Every one I've ever look at always showed towing 5th wheel at a little higher weight than conventional.


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SUMRX4 wrote:

I have always pulled a conventional bumper pull style RV. I am considering a 5th wheel. My TV is a 2003 F-250 Crew cab short box with the 6.0 diesel. I was looking in the manual this morning at towing capacities. According to this my max trailer weight without a 5th wheel is 12,500 and with a 5th wheel it drops to 10,600. Why is that?


Just look up and found the Ford 03 towing chart. Looks like 12,500 for conventional towing and 5th wheel 12,700 to 13,100 depending on cab and if 4X4.

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smarty wrote:

your short box also negatively impacts your towing capacity as well I think?


That is made possible with a sliding Hitch.


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If my pea brain recalls right, my old '03 F250 cc, sb, 4x4, 6.0, w/50 gal Transfer flow tank and Reese 15 k slider hitch weighed in at 8500. Toss in it's GVW was only 8800! What good is a "beefy" truck when it's maxed out w/o anything attached? Anyways, you are correct on trailer weight capability. Think max combo was 20,000. Now we had a '06 Cedar Creek Silverback BH that weighed 10,800 empty,13,800 max with a 1800 pin. Totally loaded for a weeks vaykay, 2 adults, 2 kids, truck weighed like 10800 and combo of 21,000. Truck towed and handled 5er w/ no probs. Really liked the truck probly cuz I ordered it and 1st new truck in some time.

The way you can tell if it has the RV/Camper pkg.....look for aux springs. If not, just a reg SD truck.


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Here is the Ford fleet tow information. Scroll down to page 19 for 5th wheel towing and the chart shows 12,500* for F250/350 CC 4x4. But note the asterisk, and the fine print that derated the F250 4x4.

"and 10,400 pounds for F-250 SRW 4x4 Crew Cab."

Ford fleet 2003 towing

In 2005 they bumped the ratings by nearly 3,000 lbs and eliminated the asterisk for the F250. Don't know what change they made in the 2005 trucks to boost the ratings.

Ford fleet 2005 towing

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BB_TX wrote:

In 2005 they bumped the ratings by nearly 3,000 lbs and eliminated the asterisk for the F250. Don't know what change they made in the 2005 trucks to boost the ratings.


2005 was when they went to 17" wheels (prev 16"), and bigger brake calipers. Wheel studs went to a fine thread. Wheel offset changed. Also when they went to coil front springs (prev leafs). Not sure that last part relates to improved payload. On gasser trucks they went to a new 5sp autotrans (6.0 diesels always got the 5sp). Gassers also got engine HP increases (slight, insignificant increase on the 6.0 diesel).

So 2005 saw significant improvements, but it is generally accepted that the 99.5MY to 2004MY trucks were underrated and can safely handle near to, if not equal, payload. But you really have to watch those tire ratings on the early F250.

I think the rear diff rating went up only about 100lbs on the 3/4 ton, which is meaningless, since it is the same diff as the SRW f350.


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Well I tried to post pics of the pages from the manual but, even with following the forum directions I still can't get it to work. [emoticon]
Either way after looking after it again I am reading it correctly.

I looked at my rear leafs and I have a total of 6. Anyone know if that would be stock or does that seem like heaver than stock?

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SUMRX4 wrote:

Well I tried to post pics of the pages from the manual but, even with following the forum directions I still can't get it to work. [emoticon]
Either way after looking after it again I am reading it correctly.

I looked at my rear leafs and I have a total of 6. Anyone know if that would be stock or does that seem like heaver than stock?
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bpounds wrote:

So 2005 saw significant improvements, but it is generally accepted that the 99.5MY to 2004MY trucks were underrated and can safely handle near to, if not equal, payload. But you really have to watch those tire ratings on the early F250.


Yes, my 2000 F250 has the camper package with the auxilary springs, and the LT265/75R16 tires are rated at 3415 lbs each. So I would feel comfortable at 6800 lbs gross rear axle weight, even though my GVWR is only 8800. Loaded to 8800 lbs., the truck is barely even touching the overloads.

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