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Huntindog

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Posted: 03/07/20 03:22am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

beemerphile1 wrote:

Simple fix, turn the jack head 90 degrees.
Maybe.

It depends where the interference is, and what jack he has.
In my case, I had an Atwood, it has a top mounted motor, so it doesn't cause clearance issues. The tailgate would hit the jack shaft. The only solution to that is a longer drawbar.



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I wish I could find a short drawbar like I had on a Quality S trunnion style WDH many years ago. The welded on head was right up against the receiver. It towed great with no sway control. Just the same, if you’re using a good hitch like a Reese dual cam or Equalizer 4 point, a longer shank shouldn’t be a problem.


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Basic physics will demonstrate that the farther the load is from the rear axle, the less desirable it is. One reason that fifth wheel trailers tow so well is that the "tongue weight" is right over the axle. Reese says to reduce ratings by fifty percent when using a eight inch extension. I relocated the jack four inches rearward in order to open the tailgate and not affect the leverage that the tongue weight has on the tow vehicle. Six inches may not seem like much, but to understand the forces involved,imagine moving it back six feet.

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I'm hesitant to add a longer lever connecting the TV to the TT.

There is a company making quick disconnect brackets for tongue jacks. I have the tailgate to jack interference. I'd strongly consider one if I camped more. Of course you'd have to add electrical quick disconnects for a power jack.
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I am just glad I re-read the topic...skank was my first read. LOL!


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lap527 wrote:

I am just glad I re-read the topic...skank was my first read. LOL!


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After much deliberation I think I'm going to stay with my current shank. If opening the tailgate becomes an issue I will look at it again. I appreciate everyone's thoughts and input. Good feedback!

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TomG2 wrote:

Basic physics will demonstrate that the farther the load is from the rear axle, the less desirable it is. One reason that fifth wheel trailers tow so well is that the "tongue weight" is right over the axle. Reese says to reduce ratings by fifty percent when using a eight inch extension. I relocated the jack four inches rearward in order to open the tailgate and not affect the leverage that the tongue weight has on the tow vehicle. Six inches may not seem like much, but to understand the forces involved,imagine moving it back six feet.


IMO there is a TON of BUM and/or misleading info in the above post and would strongly recommend for folks to basically ignore the entire post. That 50% reduction is for a receiver extension NOT A LONGER DRAWBAR. As Hunting mentioned having the dreawbar longer actual increasing the leverage that the WDH can exert which is just the opposite of what most are mistakenly assuming.

I have been using an 16/18 in drawbar for almost 40 years w/o any issues or lack of stability/ride quality. I have the longer draw bar so I can open the rear doors on my Van while hooked up.

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LarryJM wrote:

TomG2 wrote:

Basic physics will demonstrate that the farther the load is from the rear axle, the less desirable it is. One reason that fifth wheel trailers tow so well is that the "tongue weight" is right over the axle. Reese says to reduce ratings by fifty percent when using a eight inch extension. I relocated the jack four inches rearward in order to open the tailgate and not affect the leverage that the tongue weight has on the tow vehicle. Six inches may not seem like much, but to understand the forces involved,imagine moving it back six feet.


IMO there is a TON of BUM and/or misleading info in the above post and would strongly recommend for folks to basically ignore the entire post. That 50% reduction is for a receiver extension NOT A LONGER DRAWBAR. As Hunting mentioned having the dreawbar longer actual increasing the leverage that the WDH can exert which is just the opposite of what most are mistakenly assuming.

I have been using an 16/18 in drawbar for almost 40 years w/o any issues or lack of stability/ride quality. I have the longer draw bar so I can open the rear doors on my Van while hooked up.

Larry


I specifically said EXTENSION. If you don't understand engineering, don't read my stuff.

Pretty easy to fabricate a rearward jack mount for those of us capable of such things.

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I replaced my 12" drawbar with an 18" for just the same reasons listed. I can now lower my tailgate without worry. I was able to notice some difference, but it was negligible. I can't tell anymore at all.


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