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jimh425

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At minimum, it seems like we should spend some time to explain how to treat yourself, so that you wouldn't go to the hospital unless you really needed it. Obviously, it would be better if everyone could have a personal Dr.


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Kayteg1 wrote:

I wonder what is advantage of taking sick people to hospital instead of having them fight the virus at their homes?
Testing and hospitalisation only increase the risk of virus spread.
I prize Nevada governor who learn from other states mistakes and locked the state down with only few sick persons.
If statistics are right, in last 3 days the confirmed cases rose only by 25%, what most likely are the people who got sick before lockdown.
Than again, if 78F killing the virus is correct - we are only days away from nature helping us.


Nevada doesn't have enough test kits. Nobody does. The fact is that this virus is spreading like wildfire but they'll never have enough kits to test even a fraction of the population. Remember, we were led to believe that it was not a problem while it was spreading everywhere, all because they didn't have the needed materials to even address it. Our preparation and response are so shockingly bad that by the time this whole thing is over with it will be a cautionary tale on how to NOT run the CDC and the healthcare industry (which is focused on profits, not people).

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Posted: 03/23/20 11:52pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The US response has been great. If you want to see a bad response, look at Italy. The government ain't your daddy, they can't protect everyone from everything all the time.


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Posted: 03/24/20 06:17am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BradW wrote:

The US response has been great. If you want to see a bad response, look at Italy. The government ain't your daddy, they can't protect everyone from everything all the time.

If you want to see a good response, look at South Korea. The US is just about 2 weeks behind Italy and we'll probably pass them in total cases before the end of the week. If the White House decides to put the economy ahead of American lives, we'll wish we were as good as Italy.

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Kayteg1 wrote:

I wonder what is advantage of taking sick people to hospital instead of having them fight the virus at their homes?
Testing and hospitalisation only increase the risk of virus spread.
I prize Nevada governor who learn from other states mistakes and locked the state down with only few sick persons.
If statistics are right, in last 3 days the confirmed cases rose only by 25%, what most likely are the people who got sick before lockdown.
Than again, if 78F killing the virus is correct - we are only days away from nature helping us.

You're right in that people with mild symptoms don't need to go to the hospital. But this causes severe respiratory distress, a swelling of the lung tissue making it difficult to impossible for some to breath. Think of the way the common cold (a rhinovirus) causes swelling in your sinuses. Now imagine that happening to your lungs. That's why there's the fear of insufficient ventilators, and that is why it's important to not overwhelm our health care system by slowing the infection rate.

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BradW wrote:

The US response has been great. If you want to see a bad response, look at Italy. The government ain't your daddy, they can't protect everyone from everything all the time.

Exactly. Take a look at these countries with socialized medicine, they are failing because they have the bare minimum in care.

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GeoBoy wrote:

BradW wrote:

The US response has been great. If you want to see a bad response, look at Italy. The government ain't your daddy, they can't protect everyone from everything all the time.

Exactly. Take a look at these countries with socialized medicine, they are failing because they have the bare minimum in care.

South Korea has socialized medicine...

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DWeikert wrote:

BradW wrote:

The US response has been great. If you want to see a bad response, look at Italy. The government ain't your daddy, they can't protect everyone from everything all the time.

If you want to see a good response, look at South Korea. The US is just about 2 weeks behind Italy. If the White House decides to put the economy ahead of American lives, we'll wish we were as good as Italy.

I hear people talking about South Korea’s response, and it is good, but it’s land mass is 1/5 that of California. The government is more authoritarian and their people listened.

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You can’t compare responses in different countries if you want to tell the truth. The population demographics are different, the size of the countries is different, the contributing factors are different, as well as the difference in of individual rights.

If truth doesn’t matter but politics does, compare all you want.

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jimh425 wrote:

You can’t compare responses in different countries if you want to tell the truth. The population demographics are different, the size of the countries is different, the contributing factors are different, as well as the difference in of individual rights.

If truth doesn’t matter but politics does, compare all you want.


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