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BCSnob

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Posted: 03/17/21 03:31pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The changes in vaccine effectiveness with mutation of the virus are not linear. It’s all dependent upon where the mutations occur and if those mutations are where the antibodies bind to the virus.

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According to CNN tonight, the US is giving 2.5 percent of its Astra Zeneca vaccine reserves to Mexico and 1.5 percent of reserves of the same vaccine to Canada. Both Mexico and Canada have approved this vaccine for use in their respective countries; US FDA is still in clinical trials for approval of this vaccine. It's good that the vaccine is being used and not just sitting there.

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charlestonsouthern wrote:

According to CNN tonight, the US is giving 2.5 percent of its Astra Zeneca vaccine reserves to Mexico and 1.5 percent of reserves of the same vaccine to Canada. Both Mexico and Canada have approved this vaccine for use in their respective countries; US FDA is still in clinical trials for approval of this vaccine. It's good that the vaccine is being used and not just sitting there.


The reports we got were that the plan (not finalized) was to lend 2.5 million doses to Mexico and 1.5 million to Canada. Presumably Canada would return the doses, from the 20 Million they have purchased but not received, assuming the U S approves and requires the vaccine. Probably the same for Mexico.
The Canadian Cabinet Minister in charge of procurements was interviewed today and wasn't clear on the details, including arrival and expiry dates on the vaccines, but is desperately seeking any possible assistance.

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Posted: 03/19/21 06:57am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It’s in the US’s national interest to provide these vaccines to countries that have insufficient vaccine supply; and it’s the humanitarian thing to do. Other countries with low vaccination rates and increasing infection rates act as reservoirs for the virus and provides opportunities for the virus to continue to mutate eventually into variants that can escape the vaccines we are currently receiving.

Hoarding vaccine doses that have not been approved by the fda and the manufacture hasn’t even applied for EAU is short sighted while the virus is mutating in ways that is reducing that vaccine’s effectiveness. It makes more sense to give the doses away calling it international aid then to hold onto those doses until they no longer have adequate effectiveness.

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Posted: 03/19/21 07:15am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

With the United States having three approved, effective vaccines, J&J, Pfizer and Moderna, why do we need a fourth vaccine? Give the Astra Zeneca vaccine to our neighbors, so we can stop this terrible virus.

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Agree with both of you.

I got a professional paper abstract where White Tailed deer were shown to be positive and were able to spread to others in the herd. No symptoms of respiratory disease were observed. The potential for additional wildlife reservoirs makes speed in getting this thing under control paramount.


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Give the AstraZeneca vaccine to our neighbors, so we can stop this terrible virus.



No sooner asked for than done. Several million doses were transferred to Mexico. A friend got his USA origin jab Tuesday. Residents here refused to take SINOVAC, so it's on its way to Mexico City via Tijuana cargo jet. I verified the vial source information myself. I think it was not hard to convince health authorities that relying on Chinese or unapproved Russian vaccines were risky as they may not entitle the vaccinated to entry authorization.

Jeezo if this stuff goes "domesticated animal" it becomes permanently entrenched. Pets and wildlife. And amplifies the risk of an unforeseen serious mutation.

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Posted: 03/19/21 08:14pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thankyou USA


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Here is a risk calculator.

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Mexicowanderer -- I have to ask this question. What will Mexico do with the vaccines from China and Russia (without appropriate trials before approval for use)? You said they would be sent to Mexico City; for what? Did Mexico have to pay Pesos for these vaccines?

Other than the reasons defined by BCSnob as to no EAU applied for, as yet, in the US for the AstraZeneca, hoarding this vaccine on the shelf was not reasonable when our neighboring countries had approved it. Subsequent to AstraZeneca, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine was developed, a EAU applied for with FDA and granted. However, J & J did not have a large enough production platform to produce the number of vaccines needed to reach the Biden administration's goal of approximately 300 million doses by May 15; in steps another US company, Merck. Merck offers to clear the way on its gigantic platform to produce J & J's new one-shot vaccine. Ain't capitalism great! Ha! (Of course, there is the Defense Production Act passed just prior to the Korean War hanging over Merck's head, but it was good they volunteered instead.). Hence, Indirectly, I think it was Merck who made it possible for AstraZeneca to be moved out of US reserves and into Canadian and Mexican arms.

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