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Does anyone one know if a light truck tire is recommended instead of the tires that come from the factory. I have been told that I should consider a light truck tire.


FIRST thing what size and load range tires are you running and second thing what weight are on all 4 tires??????

So until you answer these questions all you are going to hear is "BLA BLA BLA".



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No fun unless the OP gives enough info to receive a worthwhile answer.

Lot's of people "recommend" LT tires on RV's. Don't think anyone "OFFICIALLY" recommends LT tires on RV's???


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Wont run anything but LTs. Bridgestone Duravis R250. I dont get caught up in all the capacity numbers like some of the propeller heads in here. Simply holding a good LT tire in one hand and a shitty ST in the other tells the story. No comparison...



Well sure you won't . Your toy hauler has a dry weight of 8755 Gross of 11,900, and a pin of 2035. Loaded to your max GVWR, and being conservative at 20% on the pin you are about 2380 per tire ???? Why not run LT's @ 3042 per tire.

There are some of us propeller heads running just a tad more then 2380 per tire. I am sure you don't get caught up in capacity numbers either at your weigh.

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cummins2014 wrote:

N-Trouble wrote:

Wont run anything but LTs. Bridgestone Duravis R250. I dont get caught up in all the capacity numbers like some of the propeller heads in here. Simply holding a good LT tire in one hand and a shitty ST in the other tells the story. No comparison...



Well sure you won't . Your toy hauler has a dry weight of 8755 Gross of 11,900, and a pin of 2035. Loaded to your max GVWR, and being conservative at 20% on the pin you are about 2380 per tire ???? Why not run LT's @ 3042 per tire.

There are some of us propeller heads running just a tad more then 2380 per tire. I am sure you don't get caught up in capacity numbers either at your weigh.


What are U talking ABOOT EH?????

I am "ONLY" 4,360# average per tire. More recently I have gained a few pounds and now running 4,495# per tire average.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

cummins2014 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

jbemsc1 wrote:

Does anyone one know if a light truck tire is recommended instead of the tires that come from the factory. I have been told that I should consider a light truck tire.


FIRST thing what size and load range tires are you running and second thing what weight are on all 4 tires??????

So until you answer these questions all you are going to hear is "BLA BLA BLA".



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No fun unless the OP gives enough info to receive a worthwhile answer.

Lot's of people "recommend" LT tires on RV's. Don't think anyone "OFFICIALLY" recommends LT tires on RV's???


I know of no one that officially recommends Lt's ,just individuals that their weight will let them, then it makes sense.

Back in 2008 when I bought my previous fifth wheel, and they had those terrible E rated China made tires on them, a lot of guys were going to Lt's , better then nothing, but did not meet their weight ratings. And of course the G rated, but some wheels didn't meet the weight ratings of the tires. now we are where we are now. much better choices ,and certainly not E rated LT's unless the weigh rating allows it .

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

cummins2014 wrote:

N-Trouble wrote:

Wont run anything but LTs. Bridgestone Duravis R250. I dont get caught up in all the capacity numbers like some of the propeller heads in here. Simply holding a good LT tire in one hand and a shitty ST in the other tells the story. No comparison...



Well sure you won't . Your toy hauler has a dry weight of 8755 Gross of 11,900, and a pin of 2035. Loaded to your max GVWR, and being conservative at 20% on the pin you are about 2380 per tire ???? Why not run LT's @ 3042 per tire.

There are some of us propeller heads running just a tad more then 2380 per tire. I am sure you don't get caught up in capacity numbers either at your weigh.


What are U talking ABOOT EH?????

I am "ONLY" 4,360# average per tire. More recently I have gained a few pounds and now running 4,495# per tire average.

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You are getting darn close to those G114's weight rating of 4805, if thats what I assume you are running . Where do you go from there ??

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BB_TX wrote:

I have used Michelin XPS Ribs LT tires on my 2007 5er almost since new. And they are great. Have never even had a low tire. And the ride is better than the original ST tires I replaced. But you do need to be aware of the weights. As mentioned above, the LTs I have are rated for 3,042 lbs. But that works great for me as my total weight is about 12,500 lbs of which about 2,500 is on the pin.



And most likely just 6K axles ???

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"And of course the G rated, but some wheels didn't meet the weight ratings of the tires"

This is where people get all screwed up! Our 02 Avion Platinum 32.5' had US Made GY Wrangler "E" tires from the Factory. They were at or near max rating. Steel wheels so I have no idea if they were 80 or higher psi. I installed GY "G" tires and ran them at 85psi because that was the lowest number on the chart I had. That allowed for 5psi over chart per GY when upping load range. Ran tires for several years and many thousands of miles with perfect tread wear.

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jbemsc1 wrote:

Does anyone one know if a light truck tire is recommended instead of the tires that come from the factory. I have been told that I should consider a light truck tire.

5th wheel trailers come in all sizes from 5000 GVWR and maybe 14" tires with maybe 1500 lbs per tire.
And bigger units up to well above 20000 lbs with large 17.5" tires with 6000 lb capacity per tire .

The last 6-8 years we have a much better new gen ST tires for us to choose as a good long term replacement.

Sooo...what is your trailer OEM tire size description and load range.....and just as important how many miles per year will the trailer be used. And will it see lots of highway road miles per year vs camping a few time a year 100 miles away.


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"You are getting darn close to those G114's weight rating of 4805, if thats what I assume you are running . Where do you go from there ??"

4,805# is the "Rating" that does NOT mean they blow up at 4,806#. I have ZERO concern running close to or even MAX tire rating. That is what they are DESIGNED to do.

My truck didn't blow up now that I am 610# over factory RAWR.

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"Sooo...what is your trailer OEM tire size description and load range.....and just as important how many miles per year will the trailer be used. And will it see lots of highway road miles per year vs camping a few time a year 100 miles away."



YEP!!! Nice to have all the pcs of a puzzle.

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