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Walaby

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Posted: 04/30/20 07:36pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

jerem0621 wrote:

Thank you all for the replies. Much to think about.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Are you not going to share your opinion you said you had?

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

Is a VAN a TRUCK???


Why yes I do, thanks for asking. The OP did not specify pickup truck, class 4 truck, class 7 truck, etc. His statement was HD truck. The only thing that I have not used a VAN truck for was towing gooseneck/fifth wheel and loading gravel by payloader. I had pallets of heavy items loaded by forklift. It tows 9600 lbs, has over 3k payload, and can be purchased for $20k with 50k miles and 3 years old.

So if OP was looking for the best value to tow 8k pounds with a bumper pull, able to carry 3k pounds of cargo that is not loaded by frontloader, and still have warranty, I would suggest a 3500 Express Van with 6.0.


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I do think a 3500 van is the best answer. The value is hard to deny. Add an air mattress and you increase your sleeping capacity while camping.

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I picked up my 2009 F350 FX4 V10 w/4.10 rear end about four years ago for less than 20k. For how little I drive it and what it's capable of towing I think I got a pretty good deal, and they are hard to find.


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LanceRKeys wrote:

I do think a 3500 van is the best answer. The value is hard to deny. Add an air mattress and you increase your sleeping capacity while camping.


A van is great bang for the buck to get a mid level capacity HD chassis and low to mid level (gas) towing power.
IF that’s all you need or want.
Ever wonder why vans are such a great value? It because they are a compromise compared to everything you can get in a pickup, except the ability to haul more than 5-6 people.
No 4wd
No diesel
No manual trans availability (if that’s your thing, we are talking used $20k here. All of the big 3 have handshakers andDodge has a lot of them out there). A manual trans is hands down a better “towing” trans than anything before the Allison or Torqueshift. )
No truck bed. (You can turn a truck bed into van-like storage easily with a topper. You can’t cut the top off a van to make it a pickup.)
Virtually no upscale interior options. Especially in HD models.
Louder inside
Worse accessibility for maint and repairs.

People tout the value of a van. A base model gas 2wd pickup goes for the same $ maybe less. That’s what the “value” should be compared to. Then decide whether you want a pickup bed or 4 rows of seats.


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If you feel like a gamble you can find a Ford 6.0 or 6.4 diesel for cheap - what could go wrong - it's a Ford after all.

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Several suggested a 5.9 Ram Cummins truck but only with the manual transmssion. You will have difficulty finding one -- those are very rare and will probably bring a premium if you can even find one. The auto trans in the 3rd Gen seems to get a bad rap, but it is a decent trans if not abused. I had mine beefed up at 150K miles for $2800 by a builder who only builds Ram transmissions, and it is solid and reliable for towing.

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Craigs List 16K
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Ed505 FTW!
Discussion over!

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crcr wrote:

Several suggested a 5.9 Ram Cummins truck but only with the manual transmssion. You will have difficulty finding one -- those are very rare and will probably bring a premium if you can even find one. The auto trans in the 3rd Gen seems to get a bad rap, but it is a decent trans if not abused. I had mine beefed up at 150K miles for $2800 by a builder who only builds Ram transmissions, and it is solid and reliable for towing.


Handshakers are not "that" hard to find and yes they do cost a bit more usually, but not much.

But you're right, autos will probably triple the amount of trucks to consider.
It's not like the 48re is weak. Quite the opposite, the 47/48RE are quite strong and can be made virtually indestructible like you said. More reasonably than newer auto transmissions as well.
What the 4 speeds lack is gears. Yes they work, but soooo annoying going from almost redline to almost falling off the torque curve with the large split between gears.

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