Snowbirding 2020/21

[Dick_B]

Unless a miracle happens there will be no vaccine for the Corona Virus when it is time to head south for the winter. It seems to me that the same rules will apply as were in effect the latter part of this year's snowbird season; namely wearing masks and keeping your distance. Who needs that?
I should have posted that the rules will take some of the spontaneity away from the experience.

[Me_Again]

A little reading on vaccines. Not going to be easy.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vaccine/art-20484859

[TomG2]

rk911 wrote:

i think as time passes we'll see that CV19 isn't nearly as deady as we now think...at least to most age groups.

90,000 families may disagree with your diagnosis. You are correct that parents and grandparents are the ones most vulnerable. And disposable??

[BarbaraOK]

rk911 wrote:


i think as time passes we'll see that CV19 isn't nearly as deady as we now think...at least to most age groups.

So 100-200K dead in a few weeks is just a blip for you? Clearly you don't have a medical condition that will be exacerbated. And when on is dead, they are dead.

[BarbaraOK]

Me Again wrote:

Dick_B wrote:
Unless a miracle happens there will be no vaccine for the Corona Virus when it is time to head south for the winter. It seems to me that the same rules will apply as were in effect the latter part of this year's snowbird season; namely wearing masks and keeping your distance. Who needs that?
I should have posted that the rules will take some of the spontaneity away from the experience.

There has never been a vaccine for pass coronvirus' and some scientists question if there will be one for this most recent coronvirus.

Actually there are ones for both SARS and MERS. In both cases, they never got into production because those viruses turned out to be 1) hard to catch and 2) extremely lethal. And some researchers are trying to build upon that previous vaccine work and modify it for Clovid19.

We decided not to travel this summer so are just riding it out in our park model - might take the motorhome out for a couple of weeks, but otherwise we are just going to hang out in the park and take it one day at a time.

Also, hubby is recovering from quadruple bypass surgery (8 weeks post surgery now) and they are still trying to get the meds adjusted. We are use to it just being the two of us together, so this isn't a real hardship except no concerts to go to and we miss breakfasts out. But we won't be going to restaurants to dine-in (though we do takeout/delivery) until there is a vaccine.

[Reisender]

rk911 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Me Again wrote:

Dick_B wrote:
Unless a miracle happens there will be no vaccine for the Corona Virus when it is time to head south for the winter. It seems to me that the same rules will apply as were in effect the latter part of this year's snowbird season; namely wearing masks and keeping your distance. Who needs that?
I should have posted that the rules will take some of the spontaneity away from the experience.

There has never been a vaccine for pass coronvirus' and some scientists question if there will be one for this most recent coronvirus.

Well, lets hope that doesn't happen. Because if it does, a virus that is as contagious and deadly as this one will make insurance companies like medipac very reluctant to issue travel insurance policies inclusive of Covid19. And without an insurance policy Canadian Snowbirders will be reluctant to return to the US. Our property in the US doesn't owe us anything after 18 years but we would definitely be selling it if we couldn't use it. No panic as we can rent it out until it sells but definitely something to think about.

i think as time passes we'll see that CV19 isn't nearly as deady as we now think...at least to most age groups.

I tend to agree with that. Lets hope that the insurance companies see it that way. 🙂

[rk911]

Reisender wrote:

Me Again wrote:

Dick_B wrote:
Unless a miracle happens there will be no vaccine for the Corona Virus when it is time to head south for the winter. It seems to me that the same rules will apply as were in effect the latter part of this year's snowbird season; namely wearing masks and keeping your distance. Who needs that?
I should have posted that the rules will take some of the spontaneity away from the experience.

There has never been a vaccine for pass coronvirus' and some scientists question if there will be one for this most recent coronvirus.

Well, lets hope that doesn't happen. Because if it does, a virus that is as contagious and deadly as this one will make insurance companies like medipac very reluctant to issue travel insurance policies inclusive of Covid19. And without an insurance policy Canadian Snowbirders will be reluctant to return to the US. Our property in the US doesn't owe us anything after 18 years but we would definitely be selling it if we couldn't use it. No panic as we can rent it out until it sells but definitely something to think about.

i think as time passes we'll see that CV19 isn't nearly as deady as we now think...at least to most age groups.

[Reisender]

Me Again wrote:

Dick_B wrote:
Unless a miracle happens there will be no vaccine for the Corona Virus when it is time to head south for the winter. It seems to me that the same rules will apply as were in effect the latter part of this year's snowbird season; namely wearing masks and keeping your distance. Who needs that?
I should have posted that the rules will take some of the spontaneity away from the experience.

There has never been a vaccine for pass coronvirus' and some scientists question if there will be one for this most recent coronvirus.

Well, lets hope that doesn't happen. Because if it does, a virus that is as contagious and deadly as this one will make insurance companies like medipac very reluctant to issue travel insurance policies inclusive of Covid19. And without an insurance policy Canadian Snowbirders will be reluctant to return to the US. Our property in the US doesn't owe us anything after 18 years but we would definitely be selling it if we couldn't use it. No panic as we can rent it out until it sells but definitely something to think about.

[Me_Again]

Dick_B wrote:
Unless a miracle happens there will be no vaccine for the Corona Virus when it is time to head south for the winter. It seems to me that the same rules will apply as were in effect the latter part of this year's snowbird season; namely wearing masks and keeping your distance. Who needs that?
I should have posted that the rules will take some of the spontaneity away from the experience.

There has never been a vaccine for pass coronvirus' and some scientists question if there will be one for this most recent coronvirus.

[Reisender]

spud1957 wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

legsnred wrote:
What I am wondering about is all of our Canadian friends.

As it stands now, Canadians cannot get out of country medical insurance. Unless that changes, I doubt you will see many of us. We may have to get reacquainted with Canadian winters.

That is not the case. Medipac, for example, will still allow new travel coverage BUT will not cover Covid19 illness or illness/symptoms similiar to COVID.

This information is stated on their website.

Which would be enough to deter lots of snowbirds from travelling to countries or regions with high medical care costs. Eg, the USA. Southern Europe may benefit from this come fall 2020.

[spud1957]

wilber1 wrote:

legsnred wrote:
What I am wondering about is all of our Canadian friends.

As it stands now, Canadians cannot get out of country medical insurance. Unless that changes, I doubt you will see many of us. We may have to get reacquainted with Canadian winters.

That is not the case. Medipac, for example, will still allow new travel coverage BUT will not cover Covid19 illness or illness/symptoms similiar to COVID.

This information is stated on their website.

[Reisender]

Flyboy320 wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

legsnred wrote:
What I am wondering about is all of our Canadian friends.

As it stands now, Canadians cannot get out of country medical insurance. Unless that changes, I doubt you will see many of us. We may have to get reacquainted with Canadian winters.

No vaccine....No medical insurance....no travel to USA. Have a winter home in Casa Grande, AZ and optimistically....2 yrs before I`m there again.

Yep. So far the insurance companies are keeping their cards close and no one knows what the situation will be in October. We are not counting on seeing our place in So Cal any time soon.

Europe is starting to take baby steps towards opening up though and Spain and Morroco have potential for a close to normal snowbird experience. With Brexit in full swing there will be some smokin deals for condos along the Andalucian coast. A few months split between Malaga area and Granada would be a great way to break up the winter.

I think we’ll all be waiting for answers until at least mid summer.

[Flyboy320]

wilber1 wrote:

legsnred wrote:
What I am wondering about is all of our Canadian friends.

As it stands now, Canadians cannot get out of country medical insurance. Unless that changes, I doubt you will see many of us. We may have to get reacquainted with Canadian winters.

No vaccine....No medical insurance....no travel to USA. Have a winter home in Casa Grande, AZ and optimistically....2 yrs before I`m there again.

[fchammer1]

There has always been a large contingent of people who do not get flu shots during more normal times, and yet they fear not and do not get the flu de jour. How did they escape all the various strains of multiple and different flu viruses? Probably by exercising the same practices that are prevalent today. Cover that cough or sneeze, keep your distance, wash your hands, etc., etc. There comes a time when the media and the masses make too much of what evolves into a political opportunity for one party or another. Fear becomes a motivator; too much fear becomes a weapon.

[B_O__Plenty]

Texas hill country. Jan to May. Just try and stop me. I can sit inside there as well as at home. No ice and no snow to slip amd fall on.
B.O.