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Posted: 05/21/20 11:18am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Twenty thousand pounds of RV absolutely needs a one ton DRW, and at 43 feet you aren't going down any dirt roads that you haven't scouted before. Why the big change?


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

"These new generation SRW's are beasts.... 5'er tow rating of 21k..."

Is that a fifth wheel rating? If so one must understand that would be a triple axle unit with 15% pin weight no doubt.


That is the fifth wheel tow rating..... and agreed


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ford truck guy wrote:


These new generation SRW's are beasts.... 5'er tow rating of 21k... payload of 4500#... but still have to worry about the rear axle capacity, and tires..


Couple, 2 dogs and the hitch likely will eat up more than 500lb of payload if you take nothing else in the truck.

20% of 20,000 is 4000lb.

This is really a rig that calls for a dually.


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upmm019 wrote:

Thanks for sharing the details... We are not head set any given RV.

We are empty nesters with two dogs and are exploring our options if we go the RV route vs. finding a cabin somewhere, etc.

We would like to find something that has a space for hauling a Dirt bike or Four wheeler and doubles as a space for dogs if needed.


We've often considered a toyhauler but the problem is to get a descent size living area and a garage, you wind up with a monster rig. So far, it simply hasn't been worth the hassle.

Our 29ft 5er has a living area as big as our friends Road Warrior but tops out at 12,000lb GVWR. But we can easily stay within ratings using a 3/4ton truck.

Another option to consider if just a dirt bike or 4 wheeler, get a bumper pull and putting the toy in the pickup bed. Bumper pull trailers only have 12-15% hitch weight and without needing a dedicated garage, you can drop down to a 28-32ft trailer. Now 3/4ton trucks become viable options (still checking the ratings but a 200lb dirt bike isn't the same kind of deal killer that a 4000lb hitch weight is)

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ford truck guy wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

"These new generation SRW's are beasts.... 5'er tow rating of 21k..."

Is that a fifth wheel rating? If so one must understand that would be a triple axle unit with 15% pin weight no doubt.


That is the fifth wheel tow rating..... and agreed

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The truck ratings are important and should be adheard for, but the trailer suspension is probably more of a concern. Most trailer mfg's put minimal suspension .

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upmm019 wrote:

Seeking advice on a towing vehicle for a 5th wheel camper.

I am looking at a 2019 Heartland Road Warrior 413RW

I've only ever owned a small travel trailer that was 21' so my SUV was able to tow.

As given, with the fifth wheel I need to upgrade to a pickup but I am not well versed in pickups.

I would have to buy used and not sure what size I should look for or if I should look for it to be gas or diesel, etc.

Thx.


20,000 GVW is =solidly= in dually territory, and no more than 5-6 years old. Diesel by preference, though a gasser would work in more flat country.

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You never have "to much truck". That being said the dually will have 50% more tire on the ground just for starters. Don't matter how much go power you have if you can't get it stopped.

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I don't know much about trucks but I found today a trailer and truck package for sale in my area:

2012 Ram 3500 4x4 dually diesel crew cab 8ft bed B&W hitch, 102k miles

with

2014 Evergreen Tesla 3950 43 1/2 ft toyhauler

Asking $58k for the package.


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Total Dry Weight 3,121 lbs.
Load Capacity 1,790 lbs.
Hitch Weight 386 lbs.
Overall Length (closed) 22' 6"


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upmm019 wrote:

I don't know much about trucks but I found today a trailer and truck package for sale in my area:

2012 Ram 3500 4x4 dually diesel crew cab 8ft bed B&W hitch, 102k miles

with

2014 Evergreen Tesla 3950 43 1/2 ft toyhauler

Asking $58k for the package.


2012 Ram 3500 DRW only had a GVWR of 12,300# if it was a 2013 the GVWR would be 14,000#.


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