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A trip to the CAT Scale

teejaywhy
Explorer
Explorer
A visit to the scale this morning to see how my setup checks out.

Comments welcome.

Truck: 2007 GMC Sierra Classic 2500HD Crew Cab Duramax 4WD
Full tank of gas and one passenger, ARE truck cap.

Trailer: 2019 Nash 23D
Filled with camp gear, batteries, full propane, full fresh water tank.


(all weights in pounds)

Truck sticker:
GVWR: 9200
GAWR FR: 4670
GAWR RR: 6084

Trailer sticker:
GVWR: 7000

Truck only weigh:
Steer Axle: 4280
Drive Axle: 3160
Trailer Axle: 0
Gross Weight: 7440

Truck and trailer - WDH not engaged
Steer Axle: 3940
Drive Axle: 4340
Trailer Axle: 5680
Gross Weight: 13960

Truck and trailer - WDH engaged
Steer Axle: 4200
Drive Axle: 3940
Trailer Axle: 5840
Gross Weight: 13980

Everything seems kosher but please help me evaluate this data?

How to calculate trailer weight?
Gross wt 13960 - truck wt 7440 = 6520 (?)

How to calculate tongue weight?
Using weigh with WDH disconnected?
3940 + 4340 = 8280 - 7440 (truck only) = 840?

If I'm understanding correctly:
- Truck within spec
- Trailer within spec
- Tongue weight approx 13%
- WDH seems to be working

Anything I'm missing?

THANKS!!!

Tom
The Yost Outpost
Gilbert, AZ
2007 GMC Sierra Classic 2500HD, Duramax LBZ
2019 Nash 23D
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teejaywhy
Explorer
Explorer
Thanks everyone for your replies and thanks @lawrosa for that helpful link.

Headed out this weekend for the first boondock shakedown up on the Mogollon Rim of Arizona.
The Yost Outpost
Gilbert, AZ
2007 GMC Sierra Classic 2500HD, Duramax LBZ
2019 Nash 23D

opnspaces
Navigator
Navigator
Your numbers look good. Now how does it pull?
.
2001 Suburban 4x4. 6.0L, 4.10 3/4 ton **** 2005 Jayco Jay Flight 27BH **** 1986 Coleman Columbia Popup

MitchF150
Explorer III
Explorer III
As said, those are great WD numbers in my opinion.. I'd go with it and if it tows fine, go with it.. Anytime you can get weight back on the front end after setting the WD hitch, is going to make for a better tow in general.

Good luck! Mitch
2013 F150 XLT 4x4 SuperCab Max Tow Egoboost 3.73 gears #7700 GVWR #1920 payload. 2019 Rockwood Mini Lite 2511S.

blt2ski
Moderator
Moderator
If it goes good, head out!
If not, adjust some more.
I found when I put more wieght on the front than I started with, truck steering was not as good as slightly less. My goal was always out as close to what I lost with trailer attached, back to FA. If I lost 100lbs no wd, I tried to out 60-80 back.

Marty
92 Navistar dump truck, 7.3L 7 sp, 4.33 gears with a Detroit no spin
2014 Chevy 1500 Dual cab 4x4
92 Red-e-haul 12K equipment trailer

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
You do want part of your tongue weight to be transferred to the front axle!
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
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Mike134
Explorer
Explorer
camp-n-family wrote:
Rover_Bill wrote:


The weight on your Steer Axle with WDH engaged should be greater than the truck only weight. Your numbers show the drive axle lost 80# while the drive axle gained 780#.


No it shouldnโ€™t. The idea is to restore weight removed from the front axle. It is usually very difficult to restore all of the weight and some vehicle manufacturers even say to only restore 50%. It should never exceed the unloaded weight.

Numbers here are about as good as they can be.


X2
2019 F150 4X4 1903 payload
2018 Adventurer 21RBS 7700 GVWR.

troubledwaters
Explorer II
Explorer II
Yes you figured everything correctly. You're good, go camping.

lawrosa
Explorer
Explorer
The weight on your Steer Axle with WDH engaged should be greater than the truck only weight.


Bad advice.. It should never go over original weight of truck empty..

80lbs within is fine.. it should tow well.

You could pull one more link on the chain or tilt the head back some.

but then back to the scales to see.

I would just leave it.. but thats me..
Mike L ... N.J.

2006 Silverado ext cab long bed. 3:42 rear. LM7 5.3 motor. 300 hp 350 ft lbs torgue @ 4000 rpms
2018 coachmen Catalina sbx 261bh

camp-n-family
Explorer
Explorer
Rover_Bill wrote:


The weight on your Steer Axle with WDH engaged should be greater than the truck only weight. Your numbers show the drive axle lost 80# while the drive axle gained 780#.


No it shouldnโ€™t. The idea is to restore weight removed from the front axle. It is usually very difficult to restore all of the weight and some vehicle manufacturers even say to only restore 50%. It should never exceed the unloaded weight.

Numbers here are about as good as they can be.
'17 Ram 2500 Crewcab Laramie CTD
'13 Keystone Bullet Premier 310BHPR
Hitched by Hensley

Rover_Bill
Explorer II
Explorer II
IMHO your WDH could use a little tightening.

Truck only weigh:
Steer Axle: 4280
Drive Axle: 3160

Truck and trailer - WDH engaged
Steer Axle: 4200
Drive Axle: 3940

The weight on your Steer Axle with WDH engaged should be greater than the truck only weight. Your numbers show the drive axle lost 80# while the drive axle gained 780#.
2015 GMC Canyon 3.6L V6 4X4 TowHaul SLE ExtCab Bronze
2016 Keystone Passport GT 2670BH
ReCurve R6 hitch, DirecLink brake controller
2005 Suzuki C50 2006 Suzuki S40

azdryheat
Explorer
Explorer
4340-3160=1180 wo WDH

3940-3160=780 w WDH
2013 Chevy 3500HD CC dually
2014 Voltage 3600 toy hauler
2019 RZR 1000XP TRE

lawrosa
Explorer
Explorer
Use this


http://towingplanner.com/ActualWeights/TravelTrailerCatScales
Mike L ... N.J.

2006 Silverado ext cab long bed. 3:42 rear. LM7 5.3 motor. 300 hp 350 ft lbs torgue @ 4000 rpms
2018 coachmen Catalina sbx 261bh