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time2roll

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Posted: 06/04/20 03:43pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

way2roll wrote:

in short, what's the easiest way to say that this truck can pull this FW?
Post the specs on the trailer or give a link to the manufacturer's website with model number.

There is a near continuous discussion on "what can I tow" or "will my truck tow this" or "what truck do I need to pull this" discussion in tow vehicles forum.

Trailer pin is listed dry and will increase. Truck payload capacity is reduced by options, passengers and cargo. It is a bit of fuzzy math until you put it on a scale and by then you own it. Welcome to the fun [emoticon]


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way2roll wrote:

Going out on a limb that most modem FW have brakes right? (that could be a bold assumption)
They do, although they can be difficult to keep in good working order.

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I would prefer the MH rather that a trailer, mainly because I have no use for a big gas heavy truck. We have a mid-range 2005 Gulfstream, previously had an entry-level Hurricane, We would have no problems going anywhere in the US that we want to. So, far, we have 40 of the lower 48 on our map, and might add a few yet. We have a 2011 HHR as a toad, and sure, I have had to unhitch it a few times, but that is not a problem, as it is less than a minute to do that. And, if the route seems iffy, I send the wife ahead in the toad to check things out. That has save us several times.


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Coach-man wrote:

JAC1982 wrote:

For your tipping over question, we do most of our camping in Windy Wyoming. Never once have we felt like we were going to tip over with our current 5er, or our former larger toyhauler. Our travel trailer was a different story...


Sounds like it may be the answer, 350/2500 SRW, which will be about the same size as 250/2500 but give you added capability! The easy answer is a 350/3500, but again what are you going to do with the truck when it is not pulling the 5 Er? Both at the campground and when it is sitting at home? Parking a dually, in tight in city parking spots can be tough. But pay attention to your weights, everything counts. Most, weights listed are dry weights, no fuel, no cargo, no passengers etc. so they can be deceiving, you need to look at how things are packed for real world expectations.


Well within the same brand there is NO SIZE difference between a 250/2500 and a 350/3500’SRW. The DRW is a bit wider at the hips, and turns a bit wider.


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way2roll wrote:



Sounds like it, with a MH, you need to weigh loaded for travel and subtract from the GCWR to ensure there is enough for the toad. With a FW it sounds like I need to make sure the truck can handle the load of the PIN, plus what's in the truck, plus the tow weight of the FW loaded for travel. Going out on a limb that most modem FW have brakes right? (that could be a bold assumption)

We have a supplemental braking system on the CRV when we tow it behind the MH.


Yes you need enough payload with the truck to carry 20-25% of the loaded trailer weight. Plus the people and cargo loaded in the truck. A SRW F-350 is the same size as a F-250, but has a greater load carrying capacity. Cost should be very similar as they a 95% the same truck.


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Posted: 06/04/20 07:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A consideration not mentioned. There will be some stair climbing in a fifth wheel as opposed to a flat floor in a motor home. This is a deal killer for some.

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Durb wrote:

There will be some stair climbing in a fifth wheel as opposed to a flat floor in a motor home. This is a deal killer for some.
Was a deal maker for me. I like that.

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I think a 5'er is more physically demanding than a Class A.
With a Class you can pull in. Press a few buttons and your done.
With a fiver you have to climb up to hitch and unhitch. In and out of the truck to hitch and unhitch. Unload the truck. Possibly park the truck etc.
Hitching the toad is also easier because you can do it at the CG office or in a convenient place vs. hitching at your site only.
The trade off is convenience which you pay for vs. price and space


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The F250 would pull most medium size 5W's I pulled a 33ft & 35ft with an F250 diesel. My current 5W is 35ft and about 14K loaded, I have gone to an F350SRW for the added carrying capacity. I RV mostly out west with lots of mountains and get 11 mpg. Look for a used truck, if Ford stay 2011 or newer for the 6.7 diesel, the 6.4 had issues and do not get a 6.0 way too many common problems. Yes there are good older but there were issues. The exception being the old 7.3 but it old technology. The 6.7 will have an exhaust brake, you want one, it works, and more pulling power.

There is a fuel program, TSD, that give big discounts on fuel in truck stops. If you have an issue there fueling it's time to stop driving. (info all over the web)

Backing is an issue for many who don't do it regular but the large majority of RV parks have drive through. I solved the backing issue by taking a CDL class at a community collage. (ended up buying a class 8 and quit after 750K miles, I learned to back) Backing is repetitive, practice, practice, practice any large parking area evenings. Setup cone,s park in lined spaces, straight line back, just get comfortable maneuvering, you will learn where your 5W pivots.

Like has been mentioned setting up is exactly the same as a class A, level and hookup utilities. Auto level, I would not have ordered but now that I have had it I'll never manual level again, push a button and stand back.

Your wife's worry is unfounded, winds get bad park. When depends on your driving skills, getting uncomfortable, it'd time. Roads too bad, narrow find another way, get a Truckers Atlas any truck stop, roads are marked OK for big trucks you should be good in your RV.

5W layout is very important and I learned as I went. My current meets all our needs. Can I get to the fridge with slides in? Bathroom, bedroom? Is the couch directly across from the TV? If yes I can hit a rest area or wide sot and fix a sandwich, use the bathroom or take a nap waiting for winds to die.

I don't have all the answers but PM if you have questions, I'm on almost daily.


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2oldman wrote:

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what's set up like?
They are more work than a MH, for sure. The part I don't like is leveling, but newer coaches come with levelers.

How hard is it to break camp and travel?
I wouldn't say it's hard, just more time consuming.

But the big bonus is you don't need a toad to go sightseeing or to the grocery store ! I'll take that any day !!

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