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Posted: 06/16/20 12:52pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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I love this spare tire location !!! I have never seen this. It is such a great idea. You lose a little bed room, but wow!!! Why it did not catch on, maybe bc nobody knew about it, or maybe the bed/axle spacing is wrong on all trucks...


If you move the rear axle forward, back to its original location like all the pickups you lose the space needed to put it in the side of the bed.


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Here's a better profile of those F-350 Super Camper Specials.You can see just how far back Ford moved the real axle.


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You will see the rear axle placed back on F550, who are build for payload hauling.
All models below are build for easy turning while grocery getting.





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Unfortunately, even if they made a Camper Special like those today, you’d have a hard time finding a big, newer TC that can take advantage of it. Most of the big TC’s longer than about 9 ft have a tub that gets wider behind the wheel well area of a “normal” long bed. If you tried to put a longer, new camper on a truck like that, those tub “bump-outs” would run into the wheel wells before the camper reached the front of the bed.

The shorter TC’s with a tub that’s the same width from front to back could fit on an old Camper Special, but those don’t usually have a problem with the COG on a “normal” truck.

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Gotta be careful with those tags. Big trucks with a "dead" tandem like that are infamous for getting stuck the moment the wheels spin, or crossing a little dip. All the weight is on the front axle and the tag, while the drive axle hangs high and dry.

In this case getting stuck is not so much of a concern, as damaging the camper when too much weight goes on the tag axle. It's not like a truck where the axle and frame are designed to support the weight. Camper's liable to go "crunch" somewhere, most likely at the tiedowns.

That's probably why you don't see campers with tag axles like this these days.


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mkirsch wrote:

It's not like a truck where the axle and frame are designed to support the weight. Camper's liable to go "crunch" somewhere, most likely at the tiedowns.

That's probably why you don't see campers with tag axles like this these days.


I bet there are several designs, but on my Prevost bus, the tag had airbags inflated to 60 psi, what was giving it preset carrying rating.
In case I would cross the ditch and more weight would go on tag, the system had pressure-relieve valve set at 80 psi, preventing the tag to carry more load.
Pretty simple and efficient on bus, but I agree that primitive tag on those TC were trouble waiting to happen.

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Is there a build thread on this somewhere?


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Those photos were from the big Ogallala rally, weren't they?


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A camper you may never see in your lifetime

Yeah... they weren't real popular even back then.
We had truck campers back in the '60s and '70s. Those type set ups weren't common but we did see them at times.
Tags for truck campers like the picture and same type tags for a 1/2 ton and TT were used back then. Most we saw were used by new folks.

As someone pointed out these type setups could lift the trucks rear axle enough and leave the rear tires with little traction. Making a turn getting up a slight incline into the gazz station left lots of newb campers befuddled as the tires spun and not enough traction to get on up the driveway entrance hump.


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A camper you may never see in your lifetime

Yeah... they weren't real popular even back then.
We had truck campers back in the '60s and '70s. Those type set ups weren't common but we did see them at times.
Tags for truck campers like the picture and same type tags for a 1/2 ton and TT were used back then. Most we saw were used by new folks.

As someone pointed out these type setups could lift the trucks rear axle enough and leave the rear tires with little traction. Making a turn getting up a slight incline into the gazz station left lots of newb campers befuddled as the tires spun and not enough traction to get on up the driveway entrance hump.


Aye, if the initial install isn't done correctly, the rear torsion springs would be taking too much load off the rear axle. I know the Born Frees had adjustments that could be made to vary how much load the rear springs took on.

On the Holiday Rambler Motovan version, they used an air suspension system instead.

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Supercharged111 wrote:

Is there a build thread on this somewhere?


Wow, he has finished putting diamondplate on the rest of the camper. It is usually seen down in FL. Never seen the owner of it post online but plenty of pictures of it.


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